Touring bike / frame. What to look for?

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^^ what he says. You are going to be spending ages in the saddle so start by buying something that feels comfortable then modify / tweak to suit. Despite doing loads of research before I bought it, I find my Galaxy uncomfortable to ride any decent distance, it is too long and low. You'll be peeved if you spend a lot building a bike and find it uncomfortable.

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hamster":272247rz said:
....I'd seriously consider a steel 26" MTB-based tourer ...
yep, that would be my recommendation.
they are strong, the smaller wheel is stronger too. The world rides MTBs, so spares are plenty if sommat goes wrong.

I find 1 1/2 slicks good - the bike is still comfy if you have to go offroad, pinch punctures are minimal and on that wet Pyrenean descent there's reasonable grip. Flat bars are better too (for me) - I'm not on the drops for touring and find the braking position easier to manage with a load.

Oh and you don't need 53x11 gearing - sommat like 48 x 13 or 14 is all you'll need at the top end ... low gears is down to you. I personally find if they are too low, the lack of speed with full-gear means wobbling and I feel vulnerable, esp if its busy with cars. I'd sooner walk, as I feel safer (chris Juden of CTC fame once bollocked me on a forum for saying that)

And use double sided spds - you can easily get off and walk or explore and the double sidedness means instant clipping in when you set off
 
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Splatter, Don't worry, I already know what is comfy; long and low definitely isn't. I usually ride a frame size smaller than I could, not because of leg position, but because the reach is just too far in a 58/23".

Pigman, I only have 53 on two of my bikes, both with Campag and one a faithful restoration. I have long legs, I much prefer to spin, although your point on having the gearing too low is well made. Flat / SPD pedals I had already figured out, as there is no way I would want to walk more than a few yards on my Speedplay cleats. :facepalm:

Well, this is all coming together very nicely, I'll have lots to talk about when I see the frame builders.
 
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*cough* .....here's one I made earlier.....stupidly cheap n'all-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162273429861? ... 1555.l2649


OR have a look around some other framebuilders and give me a shout when you realise you could save 5-600 squid to spend on parts / tents / vodkas by letting me build you one. True fact.

P.
 
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I don’t know how reliable some of the new road disc brakes are – don’t have them, but suspect they work perfectly well and are reliable. Have used MTB discs for years and never had a problem. My latest MTB (from 2012) has Shimano disc brakes and has been bombproof – apart from occasionally examining / replacing the pads have had to do nothing.

MTBs have their place touring but it all depends what you want to do and where: not as comfortable and less quick. Long distance comfort and stability are important to me, hence the set ups I have. I do have an old Dawes Galaxy hanging in the shed from 1979, was great for many years but the ones I use now are lighter, more comfortable and I’m happy to spend all day on them.

But, MTBs can take you to places that nothing else will and they're a lot of fun. In September went to Georgia (being old and retired has it’s advantages) and cycled from Tbilisi to Tusheti in the Caucasus and back, over some big passes and took the MTB. Some difficulty finding a suitable rack (eventually went with Thule, brilliant) and significant weight (best part of 30 kg with bike, racks, camping gear and food supplies) but was able to get up and down anything, albeit sometimes manhauling the bike up the steepest passes. In descent the bike, and especially the disc brakes, came into their own. Photo shows the bikes and how they were packed.


Coming down the Datvisjvari Pass we cycled downhill for 45 miles, at first very steep and rough, hitting just under 40 mph, and always felt secure with the brakes. The photo shows the view from the top, the descent was one of the most exhilarating things I've ever done on a bike and was fair payback for the long ascent.


Use of dynamo hubs a personal thing. These days I use a power bank to recharge the Garmin, phone and LED lights: in Georgia longest time between electricity to charge devices was three nights and it worked fine – I’ve read elsewhere that people use them to power devices while cycling.
 

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OMG look at that view. :shock:

One of my bucket list rides is to do at least part of the Great Divide route. That one is mtb only, but I would build / adapt a different bike for that possibly my DeKerf.
 
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Forgot to add - any bike I tour on would have to have mudguards. Made that mistake once (#) and never again ... and that was with 28C road tyres, never mind those mudchukker mtb tyres.

(#) over the port d'envilira in the pyrennes and it pissed it down all the way into Andorra
 
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I like the look of that.

My plans came to an abrupt end just before Christmas, when my daughter entered an instagram competition run by Genesis, and won me an Equilibrium.

I only managed one ride before I went down with a nasty cough, but that one ride was enough for me to realise the gearing needs some work to suit me. I have changed the cassette and will do more riding before I consider a change of cranks.

Other than gearing, everything on my tick list is there, amazing.

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Looks perfect, but as you say they always seem to put on the bonkers size chainset, presumably because Shimano does a great package deal on the full groupset.

What's your light solution? I can see a lamp but no dyno or battery pack... :?
 

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