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[torqueless]

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Yeah a proper cantilever... 'L' shaped, with a pivot at the corner, brake block at the end of the short arm and cable attachment at the end of the long arm. I'm not surprised that the 'lo-pro' ones were ineffective enough to make 'V' brakes seem attractive- you can tell that just by looking at 'em.. Imo the only bad thing about the old-style cantis is that they stick out.

 

[mk one]

Re: Canti Brakes

Dia Compe 987's, best feeling brakes i have used, super easy to set up compared to V's and way more usable in real situations.

 

[M-Power]

Re: Canti Brakes

Some wonderful examples of powerful cantis doing their stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep0t0BPXrLU

Even filmed at a distance, it's easy to see who has cantis.

To be fair plenty of the disc equipped bikes in those vids crashed too 12.22 etc. The early canti mountainbikes and their primitive or non existent suspension designs of course would fail on those rougher courses. I prefer the mammoth mountain downhill races hitting 55mph using cantis as a fairer comparison but I take your point

Canti fan forever...

 

[Oldskool13]

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[M-Power]

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Thanks for the replies, this is all new to me. There doesn't seem to be much adjustment and there is only one hole for the springs on the frame and forks. When I took the bike apart I bagged front and rear separately so I didn't mix them up, but it's possible a previous owner had it apart before. Comparing them to the Shimano Altus Cantis on my Colorado, which work really well, they seem quite basic (see pic).

So maybe I need to upgrade rather than change to V brakes?

Upgrading Cantis is easier and not that expensive but you can get these working fine with a few tricks to fine tune spring tension etc

 

[dyna-ti]

Re: Canti Brakes

Odyssey straddle rods are good and look fantastic.

 

[legrandefromage]

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The problem is, it would take me about 2 minutes to set these up but explaining over the internet takes hours.

I dont think you'll sort these easily without physical help

The springs could be on wrong but that pic isnt doing much

Found a lovely pic!

 

[legrandefromage]

Re: Canti Brakes

looking at the two pics combined, the setup looks good, I'd just accept the rattle, there will always be differences in tolerances leaving movement between parts.

As long as the pads leave the rim when you let go of the lever and that there is no rubbing, I'd say they were set up ok.

v-brakes are no better for 'rattles' either, they bounce around their bushings too.

 

[Tricky1977]

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I’m sure this has already been said, but in defence of Cantis, if you set them up they are very controllable and stop you on a dime. As I understand it Vee are just a bit easier to set up.
The fact that people recall the transition being marked (Canti to Vee) probably has more to do with changing worn brakes that have worn out of alignment to brand new, freshly set up with new pads systems. If Cantis were bad they wouldn’t still make these CNC wonders below!

I use both set ups and prefer Cantis because I know how to set them up correctly, (I have no doubt Vee can be just as good!)

 

[legrandefromage]

Re: Canti Brakes

I have some old SRP cantis on my Zaskar

they are called 'mr grumpy' which suits the owner nicely