too good to be a doner bike?

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Hi all, i have picked up this bike as a doner bike for my condor frame, trouble is the more i look at it the more i want to keep it as is........my main question here is, does anyone have any clue to the make of the frame? i was told it was 60's but i am thinking early 80's, the rear end of the bike doesnt look old fashioned at all.(pic 2), it seems to have ok componantsas far as i can tell, from my limited knowledge.......mavic ma2 rims on miche hubs, campag record rear derailleur, suntour surperb/royal chainset, weinmann brakes, campag headset not sure which though........so on to my next question, whether to keep this one going or use as a doner.......any thoughts appreciated on bike componants or make of frame welcome.................almost forgot it feels like 531 tubing, and has a 126mm between the drop outs......[/b]
 

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the shot-in seat stays at the top tell you this is quality and probably hand made in a frame shop. A 27.2mm seatpin normally confirms something like 531C/SL/SLX.
It does look a bit "gappy" for a race bike and looks as though mudguards should be in there - maybe a fast tourer/audax bike etc.

edit - looking at the seat stay cluster again, the stays havent just been shot into the tube, a reinfrcing plate has been added and carefully filleted to the tube first to prevent breakage under stress. Superficially, i'd say looks a good un
 
Looks much too nice to be a donor. Do the dropouts have mudguard eyes on? As pigman says it has quite large clearances so maybe it is 60s in spite of the shot-in stays. Like a lot of frame features they've been around for longer than I ever realised until I started coming on here.

Some closeups of the fork crown and rear dropouts would be good.

Mark.
 
i have added another photo, hope this helps, will get photo of fork shortly........there is no sign of water bottle cage holes would this be common in older bikes?
 

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I'd guess the gappy frame is also from it being originally 27" (630) wheels, not sure what the current ones are.

Additionally the tight bend at the bottom for the forks is an earlier fashion (and very comfortable). By the 1980's banana forks were the vogue.
 
picture of the fork, sorry the pic is a bit dark......its nice to see it maybe an older bike, pre 80,s, in answer to the previous, the rims are mavic ma2 700c, i was thinking also that this was probably for a 27'' wheel......is there anything componant wise that perhaps should not be on this bike........
 

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Well, the top of the headset looks like Campag Super Record but the bottom part certainly isn't. The fork crown makes me think of early 80s touring frames but as hamster says the bend looks earlier. Mind you my F.W. Evans from the 80s still had that bend pattern.

The gear levers are later than the rest of the components and I'm not sure the brake blocks would go high enough on the front brake if you put a 27" wheel in there.

All very intriguing. Have you found a frame number anywhere or even a makers stamp on the dropouts?

Mark.
 
i have only looked under the bottom bracket and there is nothing there, i woll check the drop outs.........as far as i'm aware they only have campagnolo on them
 
have just found the frame number on the bottom bracket but no makers mark there or on the drop outs
 
Have just made a discovery taken rear wheel off for first time and measured the drop outs, the gap is 120mm, (same as my condor) but someone has put a 126mm hub in it, it will only accept wheel with effort....i am really concerned that i will be causing damage to the frame by carrying on with this wheel......PLEASE any thoughts very appreciated...
 
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