Today's date: 9/11

[marin man]

I think that by the morning we may have solved this night all

 

[brocklanders023]

Too many unanswered questions in my opinion. There are many evils in the world, some are obvious some are hidden, and there are many evil men in positions of power that will do anything to gain more power and wealth. To pull off such an attack a few amateur men could not posibbley do it. My own opinion is that it may have been planned by amateurs, but it was "allowed" to happen for the grander scheme. Think about it now, who owns most of the Iraqi oil now? Its in private US companies hands. The owner of the World Trade Centre complex took out a new insurance policy months before the attack to specifically cover terrorist attacks, he made some money out of that. Incidently, all the building that collapsed (seven) were all owned by the same guy, there were buidlings closer to the towers that are still standing. Many questions. Where are the black boxes? Why was all the rubble taken and ground down? Where is the reckage of the plane that hit the pentegon, or the one that landed in the field? No plane reckage exists. Look at the CCTV footage of the "plane" that hit the pentagon... you tell me that is a plane!

Anyway, I don't know what to believe, but it's certain that its unclear. over 50% of Americans also believe some sort of cover up.

This^^^

I agree.

 

[brocklanders023]

We'll never know for sure and tbh it doesn't make a sh*t of difference to the families of those that died or the people that lived through it.

Can't remember the name of it but the film by the French film makers that were shadowing a Fire Crew at the time brings the whole disaster in to focus.

RIP all those that died.

It does make a difference, how would you feel to know your own government may have killed your relative rather than some nut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM

It's difficult to question events like this for fear of people thinking you deny that it happened or don't care about the people that died. The human story if tragic and I am very sad about the loss of life. The reasons for it are very important and still relevant today, why are we living under a terrorist threat today, that is real.

I ment that either way the victims are not coming back and am bang sure they had no real influence on either side.

I am very suspicious about what really happened. I'm also pissed, so off to bed. :roll:

 

[dyna-ti]

Why did both towers fail so completely and in such a controlled way?

This is the crux of many of these theories,but if you understand structural steel and how it behaves when heated to extreme temperatures.It's tensile strength falls away to nothing.
Add the weight of the floors above and its obvious that that floor at least will collapse .Basically a tower of dominoes :? the weight above collapsed each subsequent floor till it was a runaway train.By all accounts the terrorists did expect to top floors to collapse.

 

[Easy_Rider]

Most of the aviation fuel burnt in the first few minutes. They are still the only steel framed building to have collapsed due to fire. How can World Trade Centre 7 be explained? This was a 47 story building that just "collapsed" seriously watch this vid (one of thousands) and see what you think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw
and then look at this to see much worse fires in building that didn't collapse.

 

[cyfa2809]

lots of innocents died, for the bigger picture we will never know
conspiracy theories come about when people believe they are not told 'the full story'
its a shame the world is this way :cry:
i like to think of myself as an 'athiest' in this situation
i read this book not long after http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Pearl_Harbor
still not sure what to believe :roll: just one of the things we will never find out
people have their reasons, whats in your 'genes/dna' plays apart :?

 

[Andy R]

lots of innocents died, for the bigger picture we will never know
conspiracy theories come about when people believe they are not told 'the full story'
its a shame the world is this way :cry:
i like to think of myself as an 'athiest' in this situation

Surely an agnostic ?

 

[legrandefromage]

Di-agnostic? A believer in two supreme beings?

 

[cyfa2809]

non-biased

 

[Andy R]

Di-agnostic? A believer in two supreme beings?

Diagnostic? Literally, I suppose, someone who knows that there are two possibilities.......