jango
Senior Retro Guru
the full susser might be quicker but it ain't as much fun as getting shaken to bits on a well dialed hardtail.
I'll agree with that.......for the best of both worlds, go big, try a hardtail 29er

the full susser might be quicker but it ain't as much fun as getting shaken to bits on a well dialed hardtail.
tintin40":2z2qdco2 said:MadCowKev":2z2qdco2 said:[
TT - I appreciate that this is retrobike but your views are archaic. Do yourself a favour and test ride a modern FS bike, I'd thoroughly recommend a Yeti ASRc or Orange 5 - and then come back to us and tell us your Trimbles are faster up or down hill. That said you'd get lost on South Downs on anything!
I've tried modern suser and retro suser. Both the same shit just different paint.
A bike is only as fast as the rider. :roll:
flyingwelshman":pvydj59e said:Can of worms opened here I think. My original post was simply to point out that after years of resistance I finally tried a full susser - no one likes getting rattled to bits on a rigid more than me, if I keep up with others on full sussuers when I am on a rigid then even better. I triad an Orange ST4 yesteday and was well impressed, thus me being up at 7 a.m. on a Sunday for more. All I can say is to all those cynics is dont knock it till you tried it. One thing I would say is that I was out yesterday with a chap who knows his stuff when setting up a bike - if it was not for him the bike would of been like a " space hopper" so if you do go full suss make sure it is set up right by someone who knows what they are doing. As for suspension should be reserved for vehicles with an engine - do you know what that ST4 has more movement than some of the machines I ride and race off road![]()
Anyway go to go the trails await
MJN":1r44q965 said:flyingwelshman":1r44q965 said:Can of worms opened here I think. My original post was simply to point out that after years of resistance I finally tried a full susser - no one likes getting rattled to bits on a rigid more than me, if I keep up with others on full sussuers when I am on a rigid then even better. I triad an Orange ST4 yesteday and was well impressed, thus me being up at 7 a.m. on a Sunday for more. All I can say is to all those cynics is dont knock it till you tried it. One thing I would say is that I was out yesterday with a chap who knows his stuff when setting up a bike - if it was not for him the bike would of been like a " space hopper" so if you do go full suss make sure it is set up right by someone who knows what they are doing. As for suspension should be reserved for vehicles with an engine - do you know what that ST4 has more movement than some of the machines I ride and race off road![]()
Anyway go to go the trails await
Hope you've got better weather than here,I've got soaked this mornin :cry: