Something is wrong: Cheap old Cantilever is better than modern cheap V brakes? Top Line 93-94

Obviously, in order to be accepted as a ‘Retrobike’ a bike must have cantilevers (or older braking system).

V-brakes aren’t retro, they’re simply an unnecessary technology, filling a void between cantilevers and hydraulic discs.

Remove them, put them in the bucket of spares at the back of the shed, fit cantilevers and enjoy.
 
I use them on my " modern" touring bike. Mainly because somebody gave me 8 sets of original shimano pads for them....im trying to use them up! 😂
 
Suntour normally, but im not sure that end makes a huge difference. The spring return in some helps with feel mayde a tad.
slr is some kind of progressive cam inside the lever. It boosts leverage/ travel of the brakes as you press the levers. Normal levers like suntour otoh, gives more feedback but less brute force.
M733 levers are tanks and have great ergonomics. They weigh like tanks as well.
 
cantis can be as good as V's , which can be as good as discs, until is is wet and muddy and then discs will be better than v's, which will be better than cantis.
 
In old cantilever levers Slr is just a spring cartridge. (It looks like a plastic coated paracetamol capsule...just in black). You can fit non slr m730 4 finger levers blades straight into m732 4 finger slr clamps. All the spring does is push against you so it feels more controlled and progressive (oh sorry mr shimano..."provides linear response" 🤣)...and obviously gives the cantilevers extra return help as they are not pulling the lever closed.

To facilitate this, all shimano did was drill a dimple in each bit to hold the cartridge in. As soon as you undo the fixed pivot, they fly out😂.

The cantilevers are slightly different as they have 2 hole positions in m732 for the spring to go into. These are marked on the spring cover slr / normal. It just winds the spring pressure up slightly. The only other thing was an upgraded cable and a upgraded brass bushing washer in an attempt to reduce friction in the system.

The suntour solution was to simply add a wound return spring. Levers are half the weight, but does exactly the same thing. But then suntours engineering was always light years ahead of shimano.

Some later adaptions included super slr, slr ev and new super slr, new super evo....the list goes on.

Your correct that some of the latter versions adopted servo wave to create a cable arc that was adjustable, but the old kit was not that complex.
 
In old cantilever levers Slr is just a spring cartridge. (It looks like a plastic coated paracetamol capsule...just in black). You can fit non slr m730 4 finger levers blades straight into m732 4 finger slr clamps. All the spring does is push against you so it feels more controlled and progressive (oh sorry mr shimano..."provides linear response" 🤣)...and obviously gives the cantilevers extra return help as they are not pulling the lever closed.

To facilitate this, all shimano did was drill a dimple in each bit to hold the cartridge in. As soon as you undo the fixed pivot, they fly out😂.

The cantilevers are slightly different as they have 2 hole positions in m732 for the spring to go into. These are marked on the spring cover slr / normal. It just winds the spring pressure up slightly. The only other thing was an upgraded cable and a upgraded brass bushing washer in an attempt to reduce friction in the system.

The suntour solution was to simply add a wound return spring. Levers are half the weight, but does exactly the same thing. But then suntours engineering was always light years ahead of shimano.

Some later adaptions included super slr, slr ev and new super slr, new super evo....the list goes on.

Your correct that some of the latter versions adopted servo wave to create a cable arc that was adjustable, but the old kit was not that complex.
well... you are right.
 
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