Someone walked over my grave

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Okay, I just shuddered and the response from my wife was
'someone just walked over your grave'
(wishing thinking on here part no doubt)
Now I know that 'walking over your grave' is a sign of disrepect in times when burial ground were purchased prior to death...but why do people say it when you shudder?
What is its entomology?
 
its just the nerves under your skin have a mini short circuit you'll be fine when a small nerve cluster has spazem it spreads outwards like a mexican way weird but true (i ask'd my sister she's a phamersist and knows weird stuff like this)
 
Quite an old saying, funny how these things linger.

Someone is walking over my grave

Meaning

A response to a sudden unexplained shudder or shivering.

Origin

'Someone is walking over my grave' seems a rather odd thing for a living person to say when experiencing a sudden shudder, so why is it said?

Somebody walked over my graveThe 18th saying derives from an earlier folk legend that a sudden cold sensation was caused by someone walking over the place that one's grave was eventually going to be. This belief is in line with the workings of people's minds in England in the Middle Ages, in which the distinction between life and death was much less clear than we see it now. There was then an unambiguous belief in the everyday communication between the afterlife in heaven or hell and the physical world of the living. When someone dies in our day and age we a likely to hold a commemorative gathering where we talk about the deceased person. Mediaeval mourners would hold wakes, in which they spoke to the deceased, in the belief that their words were being heard and understood. A person's final resting place would also have been understood to be predetermined and 'someone has walked over my grave' would have been said in the belief that a real person had actually walked over the ground where the speaker would be interred.

The earliest known record of the phrase in print, which is of course an indication of the earliest date that we can prove that the phrase was in public use, is in Simon Wagstaff's A Complete Collection of Genteel and Ingenious Conversation, 1738. (Simon Wagstaff was one of the many pseudonyms of the celebrated writer Jonathan Swift):

Miss [shuddering]. Lord! there's somebody walking over my Grave.

The old folk belief is recorded by the Yorkshire novelist Harriet Parr, who also used a pseudonym, that of Holme Lee, in Basil Godfrey's Caprice, 1868:

Joan shuddered - that irrepressible convulsive shudder which old wives say is caused by a footstep walking over the place of our grave that shall be.

The expression is sometimes found in the form of 'a goose (or occasionally, a rabbit) walked over my grave'. These are later and chiefly American variants and the 'goose' version at least appears to be a back-formation, derived from 'goose bumps/goose pimples' which are associated with a sudden feeling of chilliness.

The modern-day scientific explanation for sudden unexplained shuddering and for goose pimples is that they are caused by a subconscious release of the stress hormone adrenaline. This may be as a response to coldness or an emotional reaction to a poignant memory. Fanciful it may be, but somehow, I prefer the mediaeval version.
 
i think a good one is bless you (when you sneeze) iirc its said because some religions believe your sneezing out demons. hence why i dont bless people, i dont think im upto the standards of the rev either
 
cyfa2809":4ba8kwfa said:
i think a good one is bless you (when you sneeze) iirc its said because some religions believe your sneezing out demons. hence why i dont bless people, i dont think im upto the standards of the rev either

pretty sure that phrase comes from the time of the black death and the commonly held belief that it was an air borne illness/demon that you might breath in during the rapid inhale of breath before sneezing.... so the 'bless you' would be the cure for the inhaled demon/illness

afair.
 
ekiborter":2inkc8fd said:
cyfa2809":2inkc8fd said:
i think a good one is bless you (when you sneeze) iirc its said because some religions believe your sneezing out demons. hence why i dont bless people, i dont think im upto the standards of the rev either

pretty sure that phrase comes from the time of the black death and the commonly held belief that it was an air borne illness/demon that you might breath in during the rapid inhale of breath before sneezing.... so the 'bless you' would be the cure for the inhaled demon/illness

afair.

hurrah im cured! :lol:
 
cyfa2809":2nz8rf05 said:
ekiborter":2nz8rf05 said:
cyfa2809":2nz8rf05 said:
i think a good one is bless you (when you sneeze) iirc its said because some religions believe your sneezing out demons. hence why i dont bless people, i dont think im upto the standards of the rev either

pretty sure that phrase comes from the time of the black death and the commonly held belief that it was an air borne illness/demon that you might breath in during the rapid inhale of breath before sneezing.... so the 'bless you' would be the cure for the inhaled demon/illness

afair.

hurrah im cured! :lol:

Cool I'm glad it worked for you! :D
 
ekiborter":1ddohxp8 said:
cyfa2809":1ddohxp8 said:
ekiborter":1ddohxp8 said:
cyfa2809":1ddohxp8 said:
i think a good one is bless you (when you sneeze) iirc its said because some religions believe your sneezing out demons. hence why i dont bless people, i dont think im upto the standards of the rev either

pretty sure that phrase comes from the time of the black death and the commonly held belief that it was an air borne illness/demon that you might breath in during the rapid inhale of breath before sneezing.... so the 'bless you' would be the cure for the inhaled demon/illness

afair.

hurrah im cured! :lol:

Cool I'm glad it worked for you! :D


Apparently you should say 'amen' after someone says bless you, it's bad luck to say thank you supposedly....

But remember kids, it's bad luck to be superstitious
 
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