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XD Driver ? WTF ? I had to look it up.
Clubby , you reckon the expense is worth it but how often , if ever , are you likely to need a 10t ? I don't know about everyone else but I have rarely used the smallest cog be it 11 , 12 etc on any bike I've had . I'm never on the small sprocket on the flat and I'm only ever on it when on a fast decent on the road bike. Maybe I'm a weakling but I couldn't turn a small cog for more than a minute or two. Just seems like a gimmick to me and not of any value to the average rider.
 
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Hawmaw":vfui2ng7 said:
XD Driver ? WTF ? I had to look it up.
Clubby , you reckon the expense is worth it but how often , if ever , are you likely to need a 10t ? I don't know about everyone else but I have rarely used the smallest cog be it 11 , 12 etc on any bike I've had . I'm never on the small sprocket on the flat and I'm only ever on it when on a fast decent on the road bike. Maybe I'm a weakling but I couldn't turn a small cog for more than a minute or two. Just seems like a gimmick to me and not of any value to the average rider.

Fair comments, but are you running a single 32t chainring on your roadbike? With single ring set up you tend to set the front ring size with the lower gears in mind. This tends to lose out on the top end, which the 10t makes things difference.
 
andy, XD driver I know, lol, it's a bit flux capacitor / hydrospanner

think the wee sprocket will get a bit of use in a 1x11 set up, done a bit of analysis comparing the gear ratios of my 3x10 to those in the sram and shimano 1x11 set ups.

On the sram set up I'd loose the ratio provided by equiv' of the 46 x 11 and the 24 x 36

On the shimano set up I'd loose the ratio provided 46 x 11&13 and the 24 x 36.

Getting older and decrepit, like yourself :-), I can happily loose the top gears, tho loosing the granny x granny does make me think, I do use this gear on hill tracks, I even use it on trackless moorland rides... but I'll self justify that with a lighter bike, without a front mech, cable, shifter and a length of chain... it'll be alright :-)

at the end of the day mfg'ers come up with this stuff so we buy it, and we all do love to buy bike stuff (as well as ride em, dream of building them, building em, planning to build em, source parts to build them and so on). tho perhaps the reduction in gearing is rider lead, and having 10 or 11 across the back does make a difference to the possibilities... regardless, this is jimmy choos shoes for men, or a cheaper version of that, what ever that is :-)
 
gmac123":2944pohu said:
at the end of the day mfg'ers come up with this stuff so we buy it, and we all do love to buy bike stuff (as well as ride em, dream of building them, building em, planning to build em, source parts to build them and so on).
Exactly :?
 
RobMac":2obz2eua said:
gmac123":2obz2eua said:
at the end of the day mfg'ers come up with this stuff so we buy it, and we all do love to buy bike stuff (as well as ride em, dream of building them, building em, planning to build em, source parts to build them and so on).
Exactly :?
Fooking expensive habit though :lol:
 
dyna-ti":1vjy0j82 said:
RobMac":1vjy0j82 said:
gmac123":1vjy0j82 said:
at the end of the day mfg'ers come up with this stuff so we buy it, and we all do love to buy bike stuff (as well as ride em, dream of building them, building em, planning to build em, source parts to build them and so on).
Exactly :?
Fooking expensive habit though :lol:

Depends what 'habit' you're comparing it to. :wink:

Drugs, gambling, smoking, stamp collecting, ballroom dancing?
 
The History Man":3pigpux0 said:
Depends what 'habit' you're comparing it to. :wink:

Drugs, gambling, smoking, stamp collecting, ballroom dancing?

True, you cant take it with you :wink:

My latest venture is coin collecting :D Well current pictorial 50p's,£1 and £2 coins to be exact.

Not as appealing as hoors 'n' coke i grant you :lol:
 
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