Reynolds / Columbus / Oria equivalents

Mike Muz 67":1k494amm said:
Midlife":1k494amm said:
My Moser with Oria tubing (the one with the square fluting) seems particularly light :)

Shaun

Thanks Shaun , didn't know Moser made such a thing . What era are we talking about mate ?
BTW , how hard is it to find the specific quill type seatposts for Moser frames ?
I blame Bugno for my Moser search , he won the Wincanton down here in Brighton the year I started racing '90 . Classy rider . Wonder if he's still flying helicopters !

Mike

bugno was rather special,his back to back worlds win is something you don't see everyday.probably the second best rider of his generation and must have regretted the night mr and mrs indurain "had a early night"
I think the avatar is mejia
 
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Didn't he win the sprint for his second worlds victory using down tube shifters , while Indurain had his Campag ergos ?
Read somewhere on the forum that he had his brakes set up right/rear left/front too iirc
 
Here is my sad looking Moser......more decals than a Saracen Clever Mike

Going to ask Kevin Winter if he can resurrect it as it seems a shame for such a nice frame to get thrown away.

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Shaun
 
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You gotta keep that Shaun , it's team colour scheme ! That and the same-scheme-pink Chateau d'Ax are the best looking IMO . Get it sorted mate ! Or send it my way , it looks like it wil fit !

Oh , hang on I just bought a new project :facepalm:

Mike
 
What have you bought then :) are you a six footer like me in a world where everyone else rides 21 inch frames lol

Shaun
 
Midlife":a4x0bsnn said:
What have you bought then :) are you a six footer like me in a world where everyone else rides 21 inch frames lol

Shaun


I'm 6'3" and ride 23" frames mate . Here's me at a Nat 25 a few years ago . They told me at the shop 'the frame will grow into you'



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Mike
 

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Blimey, it looks like you have nicked a kids bike :)

Here's me on a time trial in the 70's on a copper plated Woodrup.

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Shaun
 
Aelle (late 1970's) & Gara (introduced late 1980's) are plain gauge an equal in weight to Reynolds 501 SB (single butted), perhaps slightly better and slightly lighter as they were chrome manganese and drawn to a 0.8mm thickness throughout where as 501SB was chromium-molybdenum at 1mm/0.8mm. There was also a butted version of 501 (DB) and a butted Aelle, called Aelle-R. All of these were seemed tubesets iirc.

Columbus Cromor -- introduced in 1989 and the successor to Columbus 'Matrix -- is double butted CrMO and basically the same as aircraft grade double butted 4130 we see today on frame like the Planet X Kaffenback, Surly Pacer etc.

Columbus Brain was similar to Cromor - a CrMo but at a lighter gauge 0.8/0.5 (introduced about 1992/1993). They also produced an oversize version, mostly for stiffer road frames or MTB use. To add further confusion, there was also an oversized Cromor tubeset (OS) in the 90's. It had a green outline sticker instead of blue.

Columbus MAX (1987) was the first tube-set to break tradition of conventional diameters (25.4 mm for the top tube and 28.6mm for the down tube) with its 31.7 mm (top tube) and 35 mm (down tube). Max was a revolution in the frame construction system, allowing very tall or very heavy men (180lbs+) to have a light but extremely strong frame and introduced the concept of oriented ellipses and differentiated sections, applied to each of the 11 tubes, to give the frame greater rigidity.

Columbus Thron is also a 90's tubeset made of CrMo and similar to Cromor but drawn down to a thickness of 0.6mm in the middle of the tube (0.9mm at the ends). They also had an Oversize version. I had a Swiss made Allegro roadie made of Thron OS and it rode very nice indeed. I regret selling it to a fellow retro biker for little money.
 
otherself":22x8ehhg said:
Aelle (late 1970's) & Gara (introduced late 1980's) are plain gauge an equal in weight to Reynolds 501 SB (single butted), perhaps slightly better and slightly lighter as they were chrome manganese and drawn to a 0.8mm thickness throughout where as 501SB was chromium-molybdenum at 1mm/0.8mm. There was also a butted version of 501 (DB) and a butted Aelle, called Aelle-R. All of these were seemed tubesets iirc.

Columbus Cromor -- introduced in 1989 and the successor to Columbus 'Matrix -- is double butted CrMO and basically the same as aircraft grade double butted 4130 we see today on frame like the Planet X Kaffenback, Surly Pacer etc.

Columbus Brain was similar to Cromor - a CrMo but at a lighter gauge 0.8/0.5 (introduced about 1992/1993). They also produced an oversize version, mostly for stiffer road frames or MTB use. To add further confusion, there was also an oversized Cromor tubeset (OS) in the 90's. It had a green outline sticker instead of blue.

Columbus MAX (1987) was the first tube-set to break tradition of conventional diameters (25.4 mm for the top tube and 28.6mm for the down tube) with its 31.7 mm (top tube) and 35 mm (down tube). Max was a revolution in the frame construction system, allowing very tall or very heavy men (180lbs+) to have a light but extremely strong frame and introduced the concept of oriented ellipses and differentiated sections, applied to each of the 11 tubes, to give the frame greater rigidity.

Columbus Thron is also a 90's tubeset made of CrMo and similar to Cromor but drawn down to a thickness of 0.6mm in the middle of the tube (0.9mm at the ends). They also had an Oversize version. I had a Swiss made Allegro roadie made of Thron OS and it rode very nice indeed. I regret selling it to a fellow retro biker for little money.

Thank you for your in-depth knowledge :wink: much appreciated

Mike
 
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