Peugeot Aravis 1988

[LondonClassic]

Too many younger folks believe a bike HAS TO HAVE disc brakes, integrated levers, wide tires to be acceptably safe on the road. That has become the new technical standard. At least in USA.

In the UK it feels like the bias is towards larger tyre clearances and mudguard and rack fixings. Pure race machinery with x25 or x28 max clearance is seen as a bit limiting now with the trend for wider rubber.

 

[Nothin-fancy]

I hope I didn't come across as saying that the bike is not a good bike. It's a nice bike but on websites like this you are kinda preaching to the choir and people that are already excited about vintage bikes. Things get over hyped (Suntour, most Campy, Modolo brakes, Regina chains and freewheels, being able to tell a difference in tubing while riding) that the general public just think are "old" and a "relic".
Of course you get tons of "if it were my size, I'd pay X amount" on here or any vintage site.

My lbs has tons of vintage handmade bicycles on the walls that are drool worthy but every bike on the sales floor is tubeless, disc and fat tire. The owner has been after me to build up all the 700c clincher rimmed wheelsets because it's going to eventually be like 26" and not have very many choices for good high quality rims. Look at Mavic's website. Not many clincher's or tubular rims.

The truth is we are basically the dudes in the 1980's and 1990's that were daily driving 1950's cars with carburetor's.

 

[Rapparee87]

I hope I didn't come across as saying that the bike is not a good bike. It's a nice bike but on websites like this you are kinda preaching to the choir and people that are already excited about vintage bikes. Things get over hyped (Suntour, most Campy, Modolo brakes, Regina chains and freewheels, being able to tell a difference in tubing while riding) that the general public just think are "old" and a "relic".
Of course you get tons of "if it were my size, I'd pay X amount" on here or any vintage site.

My lbs has tons of vintage handmade bicycles on the walls that are drool worthy but every bike on the sales floor is tubeless, disc and fat tire. The owner has been after me to build up all the 700c clincher rimmed wheelsets because it's going to eventually be like 26" and not have very many choices for good high quality rims. Look at Mavic's website. Not many clincher's or tubular rims.

The truth is we are basically the dudes in the 1980's and 1990's that were daily driving 1950's cars with carburetor's.

We like it that way just fine thanks....

 

[ChromeChainstay]

I'm not sure how much it would be worth. It would probably be worth more as a bike for someone sentimental about their getting a bike they had in their youth or lusted after in their youth. The steel road bike market is really low right now for various reasons. Personally, I wouldn't pay much more than $150-$200 Reynolds 531 sport geometry or not. But I'm not in the market for another rider and would rather wait and watch for something with Italian or English standards.

The bike probably isn't worth much as a rider. Peugeot bikes don't have the value as well maintained bikes from other places. In my experience French stuff just doesn't sell for as much unless it is dressed up in a pro team's paint or it being 753 with dura ace or super record. The whole French proprietary thing doesn't help either. They should have dropped the proprietary stuff earlier and then they chose to go to swiss(?) threading. It definitely doesn't help someone looking for a bike they can keep going with readily available part's.

I don't mean to burst your bubble. Unfortunately that just seems to be the market right now for anything other than a super high end museum piece. I've got a Columbus SLX Grandis frame and fork with a Shimano 6400 headset that has been sitting for months and I can't sell it priced at $120. The market is garbage right now.

can we see your link for your frame. interested, and size

 

[Nothin-fancy]

I'm in America. Dunno if that affects anything. Bikes got patina so it's a rider or good candidate for a respray. Chrome is good for Italian chrome though.the size is 50ctc ST & 52ctc TT.

 

[georges1]

A very nice bike a Reynolds made Peugeot bike is always a very well made and a very good bike

 

[georges1]

Too many younger folks believe a bike HAS TO HAVE disc brakes, integrated levers, wide tires to be acceptably safe on the road. That has become the new technical standard. At least in USA.

One thing you forgot to mention people who didn't race in the past and who didn't learn to brake with rim brakes, will never have the quick reactions of people who knew how to ride on not so wide tires and rim brakes in all conditions. Plus the disc wheels are often made in China or Taiwan and the disc brake exercises the force on a small surface of the caliper and not all the brake track unlike rim brakes, it also creates physical flex and force on the left side of the fork and rear left side of the frame meaning a heavier frame and wheels. How many younger folks have a good knowledge about the quality of Dura Ace 7700, 7800, 7900 , 9100 and 9200 rim brakes ? Very very few. Between an older frame made in USA or Italy or Germany and something newer made in Vietnam or China , I will always go with an older frame. A lot of people buy marketing in the USA.

 

[Nothin-fancy]

One thing you forgot to mention people who didn't race in the past and who didn't learn to brake with rim brakes, will never have the quick reactions of people who knew how to ride on not so wide tires and rim brakes in all conditions. Plus the disc wheels are often made in China or Taiwan and the disc brake exercises the force on a small surface of the caliper and not all the brake track unlike rim brakes, it also creates physical flex and force on the left side of the fork and rear left side of the frame meaning a heavier frame and wheels. How many younger folks have a good knowledge about the quality of Dura Ace 7700, 7800, 7900 , 9100 and 9200 rim brakes ? Very very few. Between an older frame made in USA or Italy or Germany and something newer made in Vietnam or China , I will always go with an older frame. A lot of people buy marketing in the USA.

So true. But personally, I'm a Campagnolo/Italian fanboy.

I hadn't used single side pull brakes in forever and recently threw a set of campy cobalto era SR brakes on a bike im bringing back to the 80's after being restomodded and I was startled by the lack of braking at first but soon fell back into the groove of tons of modulation. I'm sure a new rider would have never rode a bike like that again if they were used to hydro discs...