Pantographing ... when, who & how?

[Deleted member 24574]

I have seen loads of parts done to various standards on parts from the 70s & 80s ...

What was the story about how these parts got pantographed?

Was there one (or a few) particular guy(s) or company(s) that did it?

Did bike brands buy groups and then pantograph them and sell them on complete bikes?

or was it just random artisans knocking out pantographed parts as per the local demand?

 

[MrW]

Re: Photographing ... when, who & how?

Photographed?

or

Pantographed?

 

[john88]

Re: Photographing ... when, who & how?

I suspect panto...
I would recommend to do it on your own, find local "engraving" shop who does it, then fill it with your colour of choice. Bit of play and it will come out amazing
good for cranks, frames, brakes, stems etc

 

[Deleted member 24574]

Re: Photographing ... when, who & how?

Photographed?

or

Pantographed?

Bloody auto "correct" ... Pantographed

 

[MrW]

 

[Ian Raleigh]

This subject was covered before and was many pages long but for the life of me find it!

I tried to get some engraving done on a stem and went to every shop/unit to see if it can be done,
if the part is flat then 'maybe' it can be done but if its curved it can't be done, also a major factor
to be considered is when they have to clamp the part down it has to be done very securely and
there is no way a stem can be clamped down for engraving either by laser or drill.

Pantographing is done on a massive machine and many of these tooling machines have been scrapped,
TGR & me went on a major search to find someone who can still do it and I did find someone but they
said the name has to be done first as a wood master so the machine can follow it and then replicate
the name in the part, the guy said it would cost £400 to make the wood master!! I said not to bother!

 

[Deleted member 24574]

I was asking more about the history; I suspect this is a lost art as you describe ...

 

[Ian Raleigh]

Wish I could find the old thread mate! Quite a few old timers on here who did
pantographing told how its done and showed pictures of the old machines
which was bigger than an industrial lathe.

 

[Midlife]

BITD (early 1970's) I don't remember anything being pantographed, the original manufacturer engraved or stamped their kit with Logo's and that was it. Frame builders used styling cues, vibrant rear end, diadrent forks, flying gate, lollipop seat stay caps but that was about it.

Some Frame manufacturers took to adding their names to frames by deeply engraving the seat stay caps and fork crowns by the mid 70's (Colnago, SABA etc) and then it all took off..........chainrings, levers, you name it it was panto'd. Some nice and subtle, other stuff way over the top!

Shaun

 

[Deleted member 24574]

So was it the frame builders doing the pantographing?