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My cycling hero, I have been lucky enough to meet him and have a proper chat and he was a thoroughly class fella
Pantani Film Full ~ Accidental death of a Cyclist *youtube
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Nothin-fancy
Dirt Disciple
If you doped while alive, you don't become a saint that didn't dope after death...
He may not have been a jerk like Lance but the guy was still a doper. The fact remains that 99% of the top riders from 93-2003 we're likely using EPO. It would be naive to think otherwise. Look at how many have admitted it or admitted and retracted it or the retroactive tests that showed probable usage.
Attitudes like this are what allows *holes like Lance to continue to make money while being a lying manipulative jerk that destroyed people's lively hood to maintain his lies.
And as far as modern doping goes, they just haven't figured out Poga's regiment yet. I find it highly suspect that he's dominating while being on a team who's manager was caught doping twice and gets mad if it's brought up and keeps having it erased from his Wikipedia page. I'd be a little more understanding if he admitted it and said it was his past but he's trying to be a better person now.
I mean the movie actually has a part where Pantani says to his mom how cycling is basically a Mafia and how it's big business and the cyclists being billboards for the sponsors and all that matters is being up front...
He may not have been a jerk like Lance but the guy was still a doper. The fact remains that 99% of the top riders from 93-2003 we're likely using EPO. It would be naive to think otherwise. Look at how many have admitted it or admitted and retracted it or the retroactive tests that showed probable usage.
Attitudes like this are what allows *holes like Lance to continue to make money while being a lying manipulative jerk that destroyed people's lively hood to maintain his lies.
And as far as modern doping goes, they just haven't figured out Poga's regiment yet. I find it highly suspect that he's dominating while being on a team who's manager was caught doping twice and gets mad if it's brought up and keeps having it erased from his Wikipedia page. I'd be a little more understanding if he admitted it and said it was his past but he's trying to be a better person now.
I mean the movie actually has a part where Pantani says to his mom how cycling is basically a Mafia and how it's big business and the cyclists being billboards for the sponsors and all that matters is being up front...
The very definition of a gentleman !Unassuming, sensitive and such pure class and drive/dedication.Was lucky enough to have been in a Champion of Champions Newtownards 25 presentation/ talk as he arrived on the Friday evening and he could have been just another of the clubmen ,similarly on the course recce/club run the morning before the event .
PanoIgano
Fat Chance Fan
Pantani was the real nemesis of Armstrong even if for a little while. He would have certainly denied a few of Armstrong tour wins if not most had he retained his top form. Indeed Armstrong was relieved to see his downfall as this open the doors to his complete domination of the sport.
Both men fought the dopping status quo of the day. One lost his life in the process while the other his soul.
Pantani thought that he would be forgiven for over dominating his rivals and so he had to be taught a lesson in Giro 99 of who is the boss. Indeed you can’t annihilate opponents and strip sponsors from visibility expecting thing to continue as they are.
Armstrong having understood this tried and succeeded to untangle doping from teams directors and coaches and run the whole operation himself. He invested massively on his image and tried to intimidate the Tour organizers and sponsors with his foundation and outside of sport activities specifically because the French public and the organizers never got along with him. His refusal to speak French and engage with the French public even though he was living most of the year in France is a testament to this.
Pantani remains the biggest if of recent cycling history.
Both men fought the dopping status quo of the day. One lost his life in the process while the other his soul.
Pantani thought that he would be forgiven for over dominating his rivals and so he had to be taught a lesson in Giro 99 of who is the boss. Indeed you can’t annihilate opponents and strip sponsors from visibility expecting thing to continue as they are.
Armstrong having understood this tried and succeeded to untangle doping from teams directors and coaches and run the whole operation himself. He invested massively on his image and tried to intimidate the Tour organizers and sponsors with his foundation and outside of sport activities specifically because the French public and the organizers never got along with him. His refusal to speak French and engage with the French public even though he was living most of the year in France is a testament to this.
Pantani remains the biggest if of recent cycling history.
PanoIgano
Fat Chance Fan
In his autobiography he mentions explicitly that he was fired from a French team that offered him a contract for the 95 season I think because he refused to get under the doping regime! Hats off to him!
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