I paid a visit to a distant bike shop today,just a wander about not looking for anything in particular 
The shop sells Orange bikes so i took a look at the current P7[as the clockwork doesnt seem to be around anymore].
Laughing is how i had to deal with it>dear God in Heaven :x its horrible
Horrible and ALLOY
:roll: P7 in name only.
I think Orange have lost it completely and turned into yet another generic brand :?
For years i wanted a P7 but just couldnt afford it and opted for a Clockwork instead,and as they're pretty damn similar i reckon the ride would be similar too :?
My personal thinking is
ALLOY-ROAD
CARBON-ROAD.
Ti + STEEL -MTB


The shop sells Orange bikes so i took a look at the current P7[as the clockwork doesnt seem to be around anymore].
Laughing is how i had to deal with it>dear God in Heaven :x its horrible
Horrible and ALLOY
:roll: P7 in name only.
I think Orange have lost it completely and turned into yet another generic brand :?
For years i wanted a P7 but just couldnt afford it and opted for a Clockwork instead,and as they're pretty damn similar i reckon the ride would be similar too :?
My personal thinking is
ALLOY-ROAD
CARBON-ROAD.
Ti + STEEL -MTB
