modern Bikes?

[dyna-ti]

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dam i had the idea about flat screen tvs that are mirrors when off a couple of years before it was invented

i came up the concept of dual core cpus 2 years before they were ever talked about

an i thought about wireless electronic gears on bikes
many years ago but i thought it could be dangerous
if they didnt work properly an caused injury or cancer like smart meters do :O) well it looks like electronic gears are now a reality dam i should really take the ideas i dream up at night to someone who can develop them

I was the first person to come up with the luminous tape measure in clear case so its always 'charging'. Ever have to to take measurements in a blooming cellar with 110v lighting :shock:
Not heard of it ? Well i did try but didnt have the funds for the patents. But if one appears on the market in the next year It wouldnt be mine but walls have ears :shock:

 

[highlandsflyer]

Walls with ears was my idea. I may sue.

 

[The History Man]

Only in their sausages, not the ice cream.

 

[Gaddmeister]

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So on one hand we have this.....

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/outdoors-n ... 13495.html

.....which is bad!!!

And on the other hand we have this.......

http://stwww.bikemag.com/files/2013/06/ ... y-29-5.jpg

......which is good!!!

But aren't they basically the same thing???

Go figure :mrgreen:

Always had the top picture! And always saw it as a challenge! Looking for tools to make it easier is pure laziness!

 

[Gaddmeister]

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I don't like it...

Bet someone will make a bloody digital style watch next!

as you were, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!



al.

Quite agree Al!

 

[dbmtb]

There are plenty of retro-looking modern bikes now too, which has not always been the case. And people are buying them - not just people who were old enough to remember them first time round either.

I've had punters come in ready to drop close to 2 grand on a full-suspension or carbon 29er and leave having ordered a Cotic with 26" wheels after testing both.

So I would put it to you that there are some things about quality retro that have been incorporated into good modern designs, that are outperforming purely modern designs. And that some retro designs are actually better than some of the stuff being made today. That is the exception rather than the rule though.

As for wheel size debate - Only 29er I've enjoyed riding were Whyte M109 and Cotic Solaris - both of which push the rear wheel as far in towards the Bottom bracket as far as it can go and which are both pretty nimble performers. But otherwise 29ers maeh..... never in 25 years in this biz have I had to repair/replace so many MTB front wheels as I do now. 650b has the advantage that you can run a narrower tyre for better mud clearance while retaining some of the rollover and extra comfort of a much wider 26" tyre. So a bit of a win really.... 29er just give people bad riding habits because they can steamroller everything. As for "standard" off-the-peg bikes - punters at my shop always go for 650b when comparing like with like on testrides. Unless they are tall enough to really benefit from a 29". I think I sold 4 29ers this year altogether? A lot more 650bs. Most people who come in wanting the comfort of a 29er don't really need a mountain bike anyway and usually leave with a hybrid type of thing....

I've made the call for 2015 that I'm dropping carbon MTBs from the range in the shop altogether as I'm fed up of having to swap frames under warranty. My punters are buying steel anyway so no loss really......

 

[The History Man]

Explain the front wheel/29er comment? Is there something to watch out for?



I thought of the spork years ago. It was called a foon.

 

[highlandsflyer]

Great to hear an assessment from the coal face dbmtb!

Some of the world XC riders are on 650b, but more are on 29ers.

Most the downhill riders are now on 650b.

Of course marketing is involved, companies like Specialized and Giant want to sell their existing customers more bikes. Similar marketing ploys are evident in just about every sales arena.

It will be a few years before we can see which of these changes stick.

My suspicion is that 650b will be the norm for all rounders.

 

[fagin]

650b and 29er are so last year.

666 is where it's at.

http://www.switchbackbikes.com/the-ride ... 66-is-here

 

[M-Power]

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Great post dbmtb !