Is it me or...

legrandefromage":22s4ijjj said:
what happens if you dont want a suspension adjusted frame? Are you considered mad? Are you then to be carted off to the funny farm (where the cows do chicken impressions and stand-up) muttering 'rigid, just wanted to go rigid and have my seat higher than my bars...'

Well said, i'm quite happy with my measly 3" of travel on the front of my modern bike. If i want to do stuff that needs more travel then i dust of the DH rig with 7"on the front and 8.5" on the back.

Some of us don't want an 'allrounder' that can cope with 6" travel forks!!!!
 
in the orange range the P7 is the closet you get to a XC bike, to me it doesn't look like one. maybe it's not supposed to be, i might have it wrong? Scott makes what i would call a XC mtb. but you have to pay stupid money.
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years ago they made modestly priced XC bikes like this DBR for example.

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this is an orange aluminuim hard tail wheres the xc alu hardtail? what is it for? jumps on a ramp?
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it looks like im unfairly singling out Orange (i have owned 2) but most manufactures are guilty.

maybe im just a luddite stuck in the past.
 
Orange did the E series of Alu top end XC up untill a few years ago (last one the E8?). Guess there was no market for them. Going back to their roots they now do the R8 which is high end XC but made of steel. Good job I say. :wink:
 
biggest complaint i have is i don't like the look of the front end all jacked up so high now a days with the high travel forks. they're almost getting to the point that they look like "choppers". and the downtube bend at the headtube to accommodate these forks.
 
All very good for the likes of sub £150 bikes but most are strong as an ox, i was looking at buying a cotic soul but now due to the ES it has gained a few pounds and i am now looking at another frame or second hand.

A few pounds? The CEN-certified Soul frame is 40g heavier than the old one.

I reckon there's room in the market for a disc-ready but rigid fork specific frame (with accompanying 400mm forks, of course). I'd have one for a start ;-)
 
Sure, modern bikes are nice, but retro-nice is always better than neo-nice. :P

Talking about Scott bikes, I remember finding their original suspension fork pretty cool. And that Clark Kent dually with the carbon Scott fork and the funky wheels was pretty rad too.
 
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