ideas for saving fuel???

Neil":2d9osnt9 said:
saulus":2d9osnt9 said:
Now that is nifty:

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silverclaws":2d9osnt9 said:
I have fitted a vacuum gauge to my car, plumbed it in right under the MAP sensor and yes it helps with diagnostics, but because it is of the type that that serves more as a econometer with all the pretty colours, it up on top of my dashboard can be seen and when the needle is showing low vacuum indicating poor economy, it is surprising what little movement is needed on reducing the gas pedal results in the same power, but better economy. So when I am not in a rush, I drive to the vacuum and get superior economy compared to what I get when I drive normally.

What I have fitted;
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performan ... cuum-gauge

and it was £8 delivered off ebay.

Are there any constraints on the type of engine you can fit these to?? i.e Can you put these in diesel VW campervans? I will research this further :D....
I can't be the only one to spot that ain't going to work so great?

And I'm not sure there's quite the same correlation for boost gauges (assuming it's a turbo diesel).

Hmmm..Good point.Diesel engines being all about compression for fuel ignition. Ours is a 1.9 non turbo jobbie. Made in 95, same year as my NEWEST mtb in the stable. Might consign that idea to the bin then :oops:
 
I believe most if not all petrol engines can be fitted with a vacuum gauge, because let's face it traditional engine design has a manifold where air and fuel are mixed before it is sucked into the combustion chamber. But the MAP sensor measures manifold air pressure to feed to the ECU to control fuel intake, so why not just see what it's controlling and make adjustments to the way you drive to save fuel when you need to purely by having a visual representation as to what your foot and choice of gears is doing.

Locations for a tapping into the MAP sensor feed vary, some go as close to the manifold as possible other read directly under the sensor, but the feed is just a rubber pipe often clogged that effects economy, and a rubber pipe that can be got easily so experimentation as to where the best place to read from is no big problem.

Traditionally users of older cars without ECU's have tapped directly into the manifold via a screw fitting which requires removal of the manifold to drill and tap, or in some cases manifold vacuum adaptor plates were available for sandwiching between the carburettor and the manifold. My old '77 1600 VW camper had one of these fitted under the carb with a long rigid pipe running to the dash where the gauge was a Gunson's Lo-Gauge, far more useful than the TIM gauge I have fitted on my Clio now and I even adapted the Lo-Gauge for lighting.

But just some of the things a vacuum gauge can diagnose ;

http://moodle.student.cnwl.ac.uk/moodle ... gauge.html

http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm

http://www.iwemalpg.com/Vacuum_gauge.htm

Hey save money on car repair bills too, as many a modern mechanic just guesses instead of tests.

But as of diesels I am not sure as it has not been my area of interest, but one thing I do know the turbo fitted to some to bring the performance up to petrol car performance standards and beyond is the cause of poor fuel economy and there the hole in the pocket, you want the economy of a traditional diesel, don't buy a turbo diesel unless you have the ability to disengage it when you don't want the performance as performance on a diesel equals fuel detonated at higher rates and pressures.

But of diesels, an engine originally designed as a cheap power plant for German agriculture to run on vegetable oil, how long will it be before the diesel engine in it's present form, the exhaust gases produced from burning hydrocarbons are linked to cancer in humans and with that the unrestricted jet engine efflux in the air we breathe ?

As it is even our own H.S.E describes at least four known carcinogens in diesel exhaust gases that those who work with diesel engines have to take precautions against, yet we breathe it every day and in towns it is the worst, some say is like smoking forty a day.
 
Thanks for such in depth info, Silverclaws.

Any methods & equipment that save fuel, for the sake of our environment or saving pennies is always a good thing. It's a sad irony that Diesel engines are as toxic as they are, given their original fuel source. Older Diesels can be converted to more greener fuel types if a concerted effort is made to source them.. IF we see crude oil hit $200 a barrel then perhaps the gloves will come off?

"Necessity is the mother of all invention"

I did look at the ecomodder site Silverclaws mentioned earlier on in this thread. I laughed for two reasons:
1) They are mad.. thou shalt "not idle excessively" or "drive into a headwind." Tut tut!
2) I recognise a little bit of myself in there.. oh dear.. but I'm safe from being welcomed into their fold, I drive a diesel. :twisted:
 
I get 52.7mpg from the Taxi Mondeo - its just rounded its 276,000th mile.

Got a surprising 23mpg out of the Merc on Saturday. Much better than expected considering it was stop start around west London. Its a 5 litre V8 btw.

Our neighbours' P38 Range Rover 4.6 HSE is averaging 7 mpg, thats seven miles to the gallon...!
 
If I drive my car with care, changing up below 2,000rpm not going over 65mph on motorways I get 46mpg. If I drive it enthusiasticly (sp?) I get 34mpg. It's not about the car it's how you drive it. Years ago I did the police driving course through work, they were trying to get the insurance policy costs reduced. They taught us how to drive so that you don't use the gearbox as a brake and corner so that you get a better view of the road ahead. Overall it makes for a smoother drive with better anticipation. After a while it becomes a natural thing to do.
 
At work all the hgv drivers have had to have fuel efficiency training and a safe driving course to try to better our fuel economy, Artics have now gone from 7mpg to averaging 9.9mpg and rigid 18 tonners are getting 13.8mpg up from 10mpg, multiply that by the 2000 or so vehicles we have and thats a big saving.
 
FSR-Si":18kc1mup said:
At work all the hgv drivers have had to have fuel efficiency training and a safe driving course to try to better our fuel economy, Artics have now gone from 7mpg to averaging 9.9mpg and rigid 18 tonners are getting 13.8mpg up from 10mpg, multiply that by the 2000 or so vehicles we have and thats a big saving.

In my old job I did some work for ArrivaNW, who were trialling a system on their busses in a depot in Liverpool that showed the driver a series of LED's on the dash top....Green, Amber, Red.... Basically, the more fuel efficient they drove, the more it would stay in the green zone. It linked in to the busses fuel management and tracking system, so was pretty clever, rather than just being rev dependant. We calculated a £1.2million fuel bill saving, for just the depots in Liverpool... :shock:

G
 
Since Jan 2011, I have averaged 60.2 mpg in a Focus 1.6 TDi estate. I have to carry a fair amount of heavy kit as well.
 
unkleGsif":1afbakti said:
FSR-Si":1afbakti said:
At work all the hgv drivers have had to have fuel efficiency training and a safe driving course to try to better our fuel economy, Artics have now gone from 7mpg to averaging 9.9mpg and rigid 18 tonners are getting 13.8mpg up from 10mpg, multiply that by the 2000 or so vehicles we have and thats a big saving.

In my old job I did some work for ArrivaNW, who were trialling a system on their busses in a depot in Liverpool that showed the driver a series of LED's on the dash top....Green, Amber, Red.... Basically, the more fuel efficient they drove, the more it would stay in the green zone. It linked in to the busses fuel management and tracking system, so was pretty clever, rather than just being rev dependant. We calculated a £1.2million fuel bill saving, for just the depots in Liverpool... :shock:

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Our fuel is monitored via isotrak and there traffic light system, we've reduced our max speed from
56mph to 50mph and we stay within the green band on the rev counter, we've also been told to use cruise control as much as possible and to keep the vehicle moving as much as we can, IE approaching red traffic lights slow the vehicle on approach but try not to stop, so when the lights change you are still moving. Its weird at first but once you get the hang of it it becomes second nature.
 
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