I wouldn't buy a electric car from

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2800 is a hell of an ebike,
A Grand will get you a high end commuter and 600 quids will get you something that will get you to work.
If you're lucky to earn enough to qualify and have an employer that does cycle to work, you can take 'advantage' of that too.
Wants high end e-bike, you'll need that motorcycle license anyway, assuming you want more than 250W engine on it, but you'll have the insurance still but no VED to pay.

Or rent them off the council if your do that.
 
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Yes but so are the engineless too.


You don't need a 'pretty'.
And the cheap are not exactly ugly, they do their job.
 
eshaanne":3g7ycsm3 said:
To be honest I don't know what I can say about Musk after this case, he always wants more and more and everything he is does, he does for himself and for his company. Moreover there is the case with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard in which Musk was involved and I am sure he played a very big role there.

:? Are you on drugs ???
 
dyna-ti":1kb0ka21 said:
eshaanne":1kb0ka21 said:
To be honest I don't know what I can say about Musk after this case, he always wants more and more and everything he is does, he does for himself and for his company. Moreover there is the case with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard in which Musk was involved and I am sure he played a very big role there.

:? Are you on drugs ???


:lol: no, he is a spammer
 
Chopper1192":2d5h6m8f said:
I wouldn't either. A recent study discovered that the whole life, cradle to grave emissions of a Model S were higher than a BMW 750i.
To be honest I haven't got much of a view either way on this debate but reading through this thread the above statement on the first page did bring a wry smile.

You see I have a Tesla model 3 as a company car which I got in April of this year, and because since April the company car tax rules mean there is effectively zero company car tax on electric cars the money I now get back in my pay because of this pays to run my BMW 745Li for the year in its entirety with money to spare.

And anyone who would like to ask any questions on living with either car please feel free to ask away
 
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That is priceless, Allen.

Another spectacular own-goal from those who seek to incentivise us into saving 'the planet', or 'the economy', or whatever the hell it is we are supposed to be saving..

It baffles me that people seem to think we can technologise our way out of a cul-de-sac. If we're in a cul-de-sac, we'd better stop, retrace our steps, and get out the same way we got in... if we want to. But if we are not going to, then we could at least stop deluding ourselves.

I like to think about horsepower: A useful mental excercise is to work out how much horsepower we've got sitting outside, and then imagine being responsible instead for that actual number of horses, because there really isn't any diistinction- The amount of trouble one would cause by trying to keep fifty horses on fifty square metres of suburban
garden is exactly commensurate with the trouble caused by parking a fifty horsepower metal box- powered by whatever- on the same plot instead. That trouble is just geographically redistributed in such a way that we can pretend it's not our problem, or doesn't exist at all.
 

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