I Find It Hard To Understand This. Police Pepper Spraying.

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Made me laugh that they looked to be carrying modified Tippman 98 paintball guns/markers. They will be the law enforcement versions, which fire a lot faster than regular markers, so will hurt like hell, but still not lethal. Point of note.. they are still considered "less lethal". Oh and the hoppers come off just as easy I suspect.

Back to the article. We didn't see the build up to that. The police were pretty calm right upto the point when they were leaving when they looked like they might do something really stupid. Also.. they should imo of used pepper spray. All those people will now completely have a **** the police attititude that will spread in that uni and elsewhere. They just gave anyone who care's a shed load of propaganda to use.

I want to know if anyone bothered sitting out and had a protest after that though.
 
dbmtb":1420atyz said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybercast_News_Service

A nice unbiased news source you found there.


Well i was reading about it on the guardian comments section, that was just the first hit on google...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15462443
http://www.observer.com/2011/10/obj...t-attention-but-not-always-for-their-message/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/tonye-iketubosin-arrested_n_1072367.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street-camps/story?id=14873014
http://www.examiner.com/conservativ...young-deaf-man-allegedly-raped-at-ows-protest
[url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news...w.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... t2I1rM33vL[/url]
http://thefeministwire.com/2011/11/occupy-rape-culture/

Take your pick...doesn't change what she said nor the fact that there are multiple rapes being reported at these gatherings, those are the ones that don't get dealt with internally they are worse than the catholic church...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1BWETV75hU

What to do when you get raped, don't report it to the police instead go to the tent where the woman with the pink armband will attend to you, no doubt trying to talk you out of reporting it. You're not a victim you're a survivor by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGFeJ6gmJAE&feature=related

Yeah, lovely people...just leave them alone they will rip themselves apart.
 
I hadn't realised until today that these guys were campus cops. (Which can apparently be anything from hired students to almost full on cops)

Main guy and another officer got suspended pending an investigation.
 
1duck":137l49x5 said:
dbmtb":137l49x5 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybercast_News_Service

A nice unbiased news source you found there.


Well i was reading about it on the guardian comments section, that was just the first hit on google...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15462443
http://www.observer.com/2011/10/obj...t-attention-but-not-always-for-their-message/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/tonye-iketubosin-arrested_n_1072367.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street-camps/story?id=14873014
http://www.examiner.com/conservativ...young-deaf-man-allegedly-raped-at-ows-protest
[url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/...w.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... t2I1rM33vL[/url]
http://thefeministwire.com/2011/11/occupy-rape-culture/

Take your pick...doesn't change what she said nor the fact that there are multiple rapes being reported at these gatherings, those are the ones that don't get dealt with internally they are worse than the catholic church...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1BWETV75hU

What to do when you get raped, don't report it to the police instead go to the tent where the woman with the pink armband will attend to you, no doubt trying to talk you out of reporting it. You're not a victim you're a survivor by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGFeJ6gmJAE&feature=related

Yeah, lovely people...just leave them alone they will rip themselves apart.

Rapes have been on a rise throughout NYC, this year, along with molestations and gropings. They are many times crimes of opportunity. They have nothing to do with OWS, other than there was ample opportunity there, and the police have been overworked and undermanned throughout the city. Why latch on to those events as if that is somehow part of a cause and effect with OWS?

Bloomberg made a mistake in going about the crackdown on OWS the way he did. It should've been on a weekend, in the middle of the day, with open access to journalist. Doing it under the cover of darkness, and keeping out all news agencies isn't right, and lead to greater feelings of repression.

Now, some say, to divert the attention from his misstep with OWS, Bloomberg cashed in his, "I caught a terrorist" chip, just a day ago. Another "lone wolf". It took OWS stuff off the front page and top of the telecasts.
 
GoldenEraMTB":2oqnbem6 said:
1duck":2oqnbem6 said:
dbmtb":2oqnbem6 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybercast_News_Service

A nice unbiased news source you found there.


Well i was reading about it on the guardian comments section, that was just the first hit on google...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15462443
http://www.observer.com/2011/10/obj...t-attention-but-not-always-for-their-message/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/tonye-iketubosin-arrested_n_1072367.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street-camps/story?id=14873014
http://www.examiner.com/conservativ...young-deaf-man-allegedly-raped-at-ows-protest
[url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/...w.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... t2I1rM33vL[/url]
http://thefeministwire.com/2011/11/occupy-rape-culture/

Take your pick...doesn't change what she said nor the fact that there are multiple rapes being reported at these gatherings, those are the ones that don't get dealt with internally they are worse than the catholic church...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1BWETV75hU

What to do when you get raped, don't report it to the police instead go to the tent where the woman with the pink armband will attend to you, no doubt trying to talk you out of reporting it. You're not a victim you're a survivor by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGFeJ6gmJAE&feature=related

Yeah, lovely people...just leave them alone they will rip themselves apart.

Rapes have been on a rise throughout NYC, this year, along with molestations and gropings. They are many times crimes of opportunity. They have nothing to do with OWS, other than there was ample opportunity there, and the police have been overworked and undermanned throughout the city. Why latch on to those events as if that is somehow part of a cause and effect with OWS?

Bloomberg made a mistake in going about the crackdown on OWS the way he did. It should've been on a weekend, in the middle of the day, with open access to journalist. Doing it under the cover of darkness, and keeping out all news agencies isn't right, and lead to greater feelings of repression.

Now, some say, to divert the attention from his misstep with OWS, Bloomberg cashed in his, "I caught a terrorist" chip, just a day ago. Another "lone wolf". It took OWS stuff off the front page and top of the telecasts.


I agree the police were stretched, over worked and undermined all because they are having to babysit a batch of protestors who have nothing better to do with their time. The rapes have happened at various Occupy protests around america...so the whole argument about rising rapes in nyc is really just a strawman.

Strange how the number of sexual assaults and rapes at say tea party rallies is zero (even though they have been going on far longer than the occupy movement something like 350 days compared to the 60 of occupy) yet the number so far is 7 at occupy protests. Perhaps it tells you something about the sort of people the occupy protests attract?

I'd love to see the real figures, without the cover up which is on going by the occupy protestors organisers.

Bloomberg did the right thing sweeping them out in the middle of the night, whilst they were too tired to organise resistance as they no doubt would have if they had been more awake. As for the press holding these guys up as heroes, i think even they are starting to wake up to the reality. The movement is already starting to run out of steam as more people see what a state these people leave the places they protest in.

I can't help but think they would have had more support if they hadn't just set up camps in parks, if they had held large scale organised protest marches for instance and taken part in those peacefully. Instead of depriving locals of their parks and public spaces.
 
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