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extreme dishing?
extreme dishing?
I do love building wheels!
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In my research, I noted that Spa Cycles used double butted spokes throughout except on the drive side rear where they used plain gauge for strength. Is that necessary or is it feature that enhances the strength/structure of the rear wheel?
In my research, I noted that Spa Cycles used double butted spokes throughout except on the drive side rear where they used plain gauge for strength. Is that necessary or is it feature that enhances the strength/structure of the rear wheel?
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I remember ordering a wheel from Chain Reaction Cycles over the phone. The guy sounded a bit surprised when I insisted that they send the parts unassembled as it wouldn't have cost me any extra to have them build it. It was as if he'd never come across such a request before. I prefer to build my own though. l do enjoy that 'popping' and 'crinking' sound the spokes make as they settle in during first couple of revolutions of the first ride.
I remember ordering a wheel from Chain Reaction Cycles over the phone. The guy sounded a bit surprised when I insisted that they send the parts unassembled as it wouldn't have cost me any extra to have them build it. It was as if he'd never come across such a request before. I prefer to build my own though. l do enjoy that 'popping' and 'crinking' sound the spokes make as they settle in during first couple of revolutions of the first ride.
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I think the idea is thicker spokes have a lower tension per mm3 than thin spokes so using thicker ones on the drive side allows for lower tension thus equalising the tension with the NDS. I think it's also the thinking for using reduced crosses on the NDS (ie 3 cross DS to 2, 1 or Radial on the NDS) as shorter spokes generate higher tension so again equalising some of the difference between the sides.
That said that could all be smoke and mirrors but I love it as an excuse to do something interesting rather than 3x all over. I tend to build 2x front, 3xDS & 2xNDS on road wheels, used to do things like radial front, 3xDS & radial NDS on my MTBs back in the day but discs have ruined all that now.
My next experiment is a set of carbon rims with bladed spokes that have been tied and soldered for no other reason than it looks cool...
...but I have a long way before I'm able to build with my feet.
groovyblueshed":2qetny3a said:
I think the idea is thicker spokes have a lower tension per mm3 than thin spokes so using thicker ones on the drive side allows for lower tension thus equalising the tension with the NDS. I think it's also the thinking for using reduced crosses on the NDS (ie 3 cross DS to 2, 1 or Radial on the NDS) as shorter spokes generate higher tension so again equalising some of the difference between the sides.
That said that could all be smoke and mirrors but I love it as an excuse to do something interesting rather than 3x all over. I tend to build 2x front, 3xDS & 2xNDS on road wheels, used to do things like radial front, 3xDS & radial NDS on my MTBs back in the day but discs have ruined all that now.
My next experiment is a set of carbon rims with bladed spokes that have been tied and soldered for no other reason than it looks cool...
...but I have a long way before I'm able to build with my feet.
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I do struggle with the nipples between my toes, just takes practice ;-) I just love the fact that I have a wheel that's round, spins for ages and does the job when riding! All this lining up of logos? Who bloomin sees them when your riding?
I do struggle with the nipples between my toes, just takes practice ;-) I just love the fact that I have a wheel that's round, spins for ages and does the job when riding! All this lining up of logos? Who bloomin sees them when your riding?
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Is it best to oil said nipples and spoke threads before twiddling together? It's a zen like moment to behold a perfectly tuned wheel spinning silently for almost forever but if the logos don't line up, whoa there – it will disturb the equilibrium of the cosmos! Man. It will be like my own version of "Speed" – if I stop moving, my shameful secret of non-aligned logos will be laid bare for all to see :facepalm:
Is it best to oil said nipples and spoke threads before twiddling together? It's a zen like moment to behold a perfectly tuned wheel spinning silently for almost forever but if the logos don't line up, whoa there – it will disturb the equilibrium of the cosmos! Man. It will be like my own version of "Speed" – if I stop moving, my shameful secret of non-aligned logos will be laid bare for all to see :facepalm:
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Well just had a look and the faded hope logo does NOT line up with the slightly peeling rim sticker. The faded ritchey remains of a decal on the tyre does not correspond with either of the above. It's simple, I have a peasants bicycle! May as well cut my losses and buy an Activator 2!
Well just had a look and the faded hope logo does NOT line up with the slightly peeling rim sticker. The faded ritchey remains of a decal on the tyre does not correspond with either of the above. It's simple, I have a peasants bicycle! May as well cut my losses and buy an Activator 2!
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nah, just ride and go fast...
nah, just ride and go fast...
