FairfaxPat":zeo87toc said:
Well, I guess we'll never be seeing you over here, then B77

And probably not in Denmark either...
On the contrary i'd love to visit, my wife keeps getting asked to do guest artist spots up and down the west coast and it looks like we'll be there around the end of 2013, if we can find someone to take over the animal shelter for 4-6 months. She lived and worked in LA & SF for a couple of years and loved it.
Anders Brevik ? Denmark ? It was Norway,this is what make americans look ill informed, Norway and Denmark are two completely different countries. Lived in Norway, fantastic place, Denmark is pretty cool too.
The shootings in Toulouse ? Yep they happened carried out by a muslim guy over a 10 day period in protest at the Isreali atrocities in Palestine, he also killed 4 soldiers but there was no outcry to ban pistols because this was an exremely rare kind of once every fifty years event in France, which, I might add is the 12th highest in world for private firearms. Just a couple of figures because Sylus likes them so much....
Source UNODC Small Arms Survey 2011
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... yTnc#gid=0
Percentage of homicides by firearm...
France 9.6%
USA 60%
Turkmenistan 2.4%
Homicides by Firearm
France 35
USA 9146
Turkmenistan 5
So looks like Turkmenistan is pretty safe, who'd have thought it ?
Dunblane UK, yep we banned pretty much all private firearms with a few exceptions, bizzarely no massacres have happened since but gun crime is still with us in the UK. Also anyone remember Hungerford ?
Of course these things happen, murder with one weapon or another has always been with us but it does seem like that in the US protecting ones right to own insanely capable weaponry is put above the right that children have to grow up.
I am not at all against the the banning of all guns, I have no problem with hunting rifles, shotguns being used to hunt for food or clay pigeon (skeet) shooting but to make high velocity large capacity military arms a god given right for every US citizen is madness.
Sylus,
The guy was NRA Executive Vice President, pretty high up wouldn't you say ?
The US interferring in brit business ? nooo I said the rest of the world, the US has a history of going into countries where it's not wanted and ******* things up, don't forget it was the US the got Saddam Hussein into power in the first place and that british, french, us, german, nowegian troops are currently being killed in Afghanistan by munitions given to the the Taliban by the US in the 70s to fight the russians. Tell me again why are NATO soldiers in Afghanistan at the bequest of the USA ?
Being in France and studied the Algerian conflict ? Yep my father in law was in service over there and the french government have just passed legislation to allow the french army command to be tried for war crimes, the british have done some pretty damnable things too, India, Malaya, South Africa etc, you can't have an empire that spans a third of the world without blood on your hands but we as a nation do not have a long history of shooting schoolchildren. 1902 is the first example of a shooting at an american school that I can find (Associated Press archive)
Fun Fact 1567: It was only made illegal for austrailian aborigines to be hunted for sport in 1932 and to be shot for trespass in 1964.
The point is that the US leads the way in many many areas yet does not seem to have evolved, constantly bleating on about the right to this and the right to that and has consistently acted in a way that goes against eveything it preaches.
No I am not speaking from direct experience as you are because you happen to live there (and constantly remind us of the fact) but I do deal with the states on a daily basis and have visited canada a couple of times, why do you think canadians get so pissed off when they are mistaken for americans ? We also employ two american girls one from Flint, Michigan who actually seems proud that her home town is one of the most dangerous places to live in the US and a lovely Californian girl who has stated that the sun is a sun and not a star and that 'we are living in the end days' still she's got a great rack so it's all good.
I gave you the links for where I got the other info (you're welcome) but why should I do all the work I'm sure you'll find it more satisfying if you do it yourself.
The gun/car comparison ? something thrown up by idiots to evade the real point. Not even going to dignify that with an answer.
The cats, two died the other will be ok. We usually get a few brought in at this time of the year because of the hunters that get new guns for xmas and want to try them out, given that the french have shot pretty much all the wildlife in france if they see a cat they shoot it. I could even live with people shooting cats if they actually ate them.