Great Scott!! A spare spoke/chainstay protector..

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Perusing the old threads when I saw this and the long distance touring rider in me thinks this is a brilliant :idea: Is it? ..

I expect slack gear changes could be a bit musical :) but are there other downsides?

Anyone have any experience of such a feature on their frame? -Scott or otherwise?

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Some of the mid-to-late 80s Diamond Backs had spoke holders on the chainstay like that. Think there's a green Apex that's had some pics posted here before, with them on.
 
A great idea, never really took off in mass production, presumably as their buyers didn't know how to fit a spoke or true a wheel, so it had no attraction as a feature.
I've not seen it on a mountainbike before.

Turns up on some classic tourers from Fuji, Novara, Raleigh Randonneur and newer Sojourn, and others.

Now on bijoux high end US tourers: Sacha White, Soma and Carl Strong at least. It lends that 'really though out' feel to a custom frame.

Geekhouse, Davidson and Surly (LHT) bizarrely fit them on the LH chainstay; totally missing the point. :?

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It's certainly mentioned as a design feature in the mid-80s Paterek framebuilding manual, and I think it turns up in Tony Oliver's "Touring Bikes" book.

but are there other downsides?
-Different spoke length needed if you change your hub flange size, but you can fit extending spacers for longer spokes.
-Make sure the nipples are done up tight, a stray spoke could do some damage.
-Tiny extra risk of chainstay cracking at the BB braze-on end.

Oh, and other bike people stopping you to have a look 8)

All the best
 
My Dawes Sardar had them. Might get them retrofitted to a certain frame by a certain builder before said builder moves...
 
Photo in 1st post shows Scott Boulder '88 chainstays
some other brands in late 80/ early 90 use this idea (I han while ago Centurion frame with same system), now You can also find it in frames dedicated to travelling (fex Surly)
Important is to tight nippels quite strong - vibrations of the frame can untight them...
 
it is a useful idea but then you would need to carry a cassette removal tool and chain whip in case the spoeks ping o nthe drive side, not to mention a spoke key.

i mean, when was the last time you broke a spoke on a decent pair of wheels ...I am struggling to remember when it happened to me, and it is not a senior moment but a seldom occurence.
 
02gf74":cw9zg8c1 said:
it is a useful idea but then you would need to carry a cassette removal tool and chain whip in case the spoeks ping o nthe drive side, not to mention a spoke key.

i mean, when was the last time you broke a spoke on a decent pair of wheels ...I am struggling to remember when it happened to me, and it is not a senior moment but a seldom occurence.

It's happened to me with "traditional" J bend spokes; always DS too!

PS: Mavic Crossrides - all spokes the same length for DS, NDS and Front and no need to take the cassette off, so just a normal spoke key needed. It means such historic braze-ons would be rendered very blingy with aero straight pull spokes attached to them :lol:
 
i've neve broken a spoke. . . and I only know one clutz of a rider has done so, what are you all doing?
 
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