GAY Marriage

[clockworkgazz]

Why are you interested in other faiths views on this? Do you think just because they also believe in a supernatural being they like you, have moral authority? And if you respect other cults views on homosexuallity, why not on other things? We could all agree that the original sin idea is great and should be universally supported and a return to god santioned war should never be the sole preserve of islam lets all agree to take these noble ideals on and make the world a better place. :roll:

 

[KDM]

Why are you interested in other faiths views on this? Do you think just because they also believe in a supernatural being they like you, have moral authority?

I think another faiths perspective and just how much the "I must be allowed to marry in this holy building" brigade attacks them for non allowance or is this just another one of those attacks on christianity whatever tool those who wish to attack it use for purpose. Asking how other faiths deal with this issue and how people of those faiths see same sex marriage opens intellectual debate rather than burn burn burn the church some seem limited too

And if you respect other cults views on homosexuallity, why not on other things? We could all agree that the original sin idea is great and should be universally supported and a return to god santioned war should never be the sole preserve of islam lets all agree to take these noble ideals on and make the world a better place. :roll:

Your view on chritianity is quite dull and caveman I'm afraid Gazz and doesn't reflect those who practice but it is a covenient generalisation.

Most do not have an issue with gay marriage, all they ask is that those who wish to be respected, that they also respect the history and their wishes that it not be in a christian church.

 

[FMJ]

Most do not have an issue with gay marriage, all they ask is that those who wish to be respected, that they also respect the history and their wishes that it not be in a christian church.

I'm not too familiar with what's going on over there, as I don't spend a hell of a lot of time dwelling on the subject. Having a number of friends in the community here, and being somewhat concerned with the politics of the day regionally I'm fairly familiar with what's going on in my little corner of the world, however. As stated previously, it's a non issue here. Has been for years. There are gay reverends with parishes here in several christian sects, notably the Anglican and United faiths (I went to school with one, but didn't know till our paths crossed on our local motorcycle forum recently - a gay motorcycle riding reverend. go figure). Both of those allow same sex marriages in their churches, IIRC as voted on by the parishioners, so I find your quote above to be quite odd. Especially when the church you seem to be vociferously defending prefers to retain their gay priests (albeit closeted), and has no problem with playing a hush-hush, parish to parish shell game with them to keep it that way.

 

[clockworkgazz]

So you dont believe in original sin then? Very progressive, what about the flood, genisis, and the virgin birth or do most christians now think that is hokum. Cavemen would have more sense than believe those tales.

And just for the record, i have never asked for churches to be forced to undertake wedding services just that gay marrage become legal glad you dont have an issue with a change in the law and we are in accord.

 

[greenstiles]

A good point raised is that animals have same sex sexual relationships. Something recentlyabout benobo femal chimps havinf forward facing genitals so they have sex with each other and make extra noises when a male is around to entice him to mate............so all the lesbian, threesome fantacies are quite primeval and are based or past behaviour of our species. So if you are a Darwinist same sex relationships are natural. But just same sex in either gender exists by itself and for no other purpose than that is who you are, all quite normal and has been for a long long time.

It is only man denying his biological roots that is causing this issue. Head in the sand stuff.

 

[highlandsflyer]

burn burn burn the church some seem limited too

bum bum bum the church? why not, they started all that!

 

[drcarlos]

I find it very odd that gay people would want to have their union/partnership ratified by organisations that have for hundreds of years preached about the wrongness of homosexuality and have it written in their doctorine.
I would say the legal view is what counts not what some archaic organisation says.

Carl.

 

[FluffyChicken]

If the Catholics do not want gay marriage in their churches then so be it, let them not allow it. Leave their club to themselves.

CofE is the only one that has any significance over here, what's their stance on it. I don't follow the news on this. should we force them? they are our official religion arn't they? Certainly the largest by a mile.
Does York differ to that southern one ?


What's the opinion polls currently at, i'm sure some none biased place must have ran some ?

 

[rollin]

I find it very odd that gay people would want to have their union/partnership ratified by organisations that have for hundreds of years preached about the wrongness of homosexuality and have it written in their doctorine.
I would say the legal view is what counts not what some archaic organisation says.

Carl.

"Gay" as a concept did not actually exist for quite some time. It was not even talked about in "good society". Especially the love between women. it was never as restricted/prohibited as that of men, because society did not even acknowledge it. (Not saying it was not kept secret, but discovery was less likely because suspicion was less rampaging)

Anyway. I do not see how anyone can claim marriage as being holy when for centuries the aim of marriages was to make good business associations, parents chose the partners for their children (which were in many cases really still children) or (probably not supported by churches, but officially possible) nowadays people get married five times in 15 minutes for the duration of 30 days... or whatever.

I know not everyone is like that and marriage between children is generally frowned upon now. I just don't understand how anyone could hold that institution up on a high pedestal and not invite everyone to the club if they want to join in.

/my 2cents

 

[rosstheboss]

This kind of sums up the debate for me i.e. There's no need to make a song and dance about it....