GAY Marriage

[highlandsflyer]

KDM>

The remarks are pointed at the intolerant amongst the Christian sects; as I am sure yours is aimed at the extremists of Islam.

Every religion has its hateful factions, but intolerance is not inherent to the teachings of most, more a facet of human nature that manifests itself wherever people gain power.

 

[clockworkgazz]

I love these public discussions, we get to see the real side of the catholic church and hopefully folk can see what small minded sexually obsessed inchworms the clergy really are.

Unfortuneatly christianity, including moderates have become an easy punchback that wouldn't be tolerated by say, Islam.

Not all christians are homophobics so it would be wrong to label them and their faith in such a way

Which christians have been championing gay rights then? Or even critcising those that are homophobic? Silence speaks volumes.

All religions have been getting away with murder for thousands of years, to critise any is somehow considered to be not on, if you peddle a ill informed cobbled together collection of fables and expect to get away without a fight you really are living in la la land. Btw are you having a pop at islam or do you want to be on the same level as them? (easy done, just issue a few death sentences to novelists and newspapers and your on your way).
Cardinal keith o brien is head of the catholic church in scotland, he is not all catholics to be sure but his big fat gob does represents scottish catholics and as far as i am aware, there has yet to be a backlash from catholics condeming his medevil and purile dogma- if a church elects these dunderheads you can hardly complain if people point it out.

 

[bigmick]

I love these public discussions, we get to see the real side of the catholic church and hopefully folk can see what small minded sexually obsessed inchworms the clergy really are.

Unfortuneatly christianity, including moderates have become an easy punchback that wouldn't be tolerated by say, Islam.

Not all christians are homophobics so it would be wrong to label them and their faith in such a way

Which christians have been championing gay rights then? Or even critcising those that are homophobic? Silence speaks volumes.

All religions have been getting away with murder for thousands of years, to critise any is somehow considered to be not on, if you peddle a ill informed cobbled together collection of fables and expect to get away without a fight you really are living in la la land. Btw are you having a pop at islam or do you want to be on the same level as them? (easy done, just issue a few death sentences to novelists and newspapers and your on your way).
Cardinal keith o brien is head of the catholic church in scotland, he is not all catholics to be sure but his big fat gob does represents scottish catholics and as far as i am aware, there has yet to be a backlash from catholics condeming his medevil and purile dogma- if a church elects these dunderheads you can hardly complain if people point it out.

he represents the church of rome not the church of scotland, reformation was about moving the goalposts, if they want marraige let them make a new church and not try force the issue

 

[clockworkgazz]

Read what I said, "he represents scottish catholics" nothing at all about the church of scotland! BTW marrage is not the exclusive right of any religion it is a state given right, so there is no need to invent another religion for gay folk but yet again another shining example of inclusion :roll:

 

[Neil]

if they want marraige let them make a new church and not try force the issue

I'm not getting this - is there a gay contingent actually lobbying to have religions be forced to provide weddings for same-sex couples?

Or do they just want the legal ability to be able to marry?

Genuine question.

Who's religulous-ing this - the gay lobby, or the religious protesting?

Heterosexual couples can get legally married in registry offices (and plenty of other locations) and need have no religious connotations or aspect to their ceremony (if that's what they wish). The way I see it, who does it harm if gay couples want to do the same.

That said, I see no value in trying to make religions conform to this (is that being attempted, though?) - whether I agree with the religious standpoint over it, or not (not, as it happens, but I feel they should be free to do so, I just don't think their views should have any further standing in society in general, beyond their own beliefs).

 

[highlandsflyer]

One of the most pro gay ministers I have met is from Forsinard.

His tolerance seems cautionary compared to the clergy of Ardgay.

I am against forcing any organisation to be inclusive, but those who decide against joining the 21st century should have nothing to do with public funding or charitable status.

 

[clockworkgazz]

Bottom line for the church is they do not think the right to marry should be given to gay folks, the whole forcing them to marry them is a red herring- who in there right mind would want thier big day presided over by a man in a dress with a grudge?

 

[highlandsflyer]

who in there right mind would want thier big day presided over by a man in a dress with a grudge?

Spouse to be?

 

[suburbanreuben]

One of the most pro gay ministers I have met is from Forsinard.

His tolerance seems cautionary compared to the clergy of Ardgay.

I am against forcing any organisation to be inclusive, but those who decide against joining the 21st century should have nothing to do with public funding or charitable status.

Or voting in the House of Lords (a whole seperate thread :roll: )
Is this why the Archbishop of Cant. has resigned?

 

[highlandsflyer]

Bottom line for the church

It really is.