Fillet Brazed Frame... Gary Fisher?????

[pete_mcc]

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Hmm might be a Gary fisher?? I really don't know? The fork is Tig welded and looks to be ther original one. The lugs on the fork dropouts look quite distinctive

Very much doubt that the fork is original to that bike. The frame is fillet brazed and has no eyelets on the dropout yet the forks are tigged and have mudguard eyelets. Why would a company think a cyclist would only want a front mudguard?

It looks resprayed with random stickers attached and strange esoteric touches like the headtube cable guide that doesn't look to be aligned with the toptube and the cable routing around the BB looks like something a custom builder would do to avoid the mud. In fact the whole thing looks designed to be used in a muddy environment with the TT cable routing (this is a relatively early frame for that). I would doubt that Fisher were too bothered with the mud to do this.

Certainly not any type of Fisher that I've ever seen. I'm going for full custom.

 

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Hmm might be a Gary fisher?? I really don't know? The fork is Tig welded and looks to be ther original one. The lugs on the fork dropouts look quite distinctive

Very much doubt that the fork is original to that bike. The frame is fillet brazed and has no eyelets on the dropout yet the forks are tigged and have mudguard eyelets. Why would a company think a cyclist would only want a front mudguard?

It looks resprayed with random stickers attached and strange esoteric touches like the headtube cable guide that doesn't look to be aligned with the toptube and the cable routing around the BB looks like something a custom builder would do to avoid the mud. In fact the whole thing looks designed to be used in a muddy environment with the TT cable routing (this is a relatively early frame for that). I would doubt that Fisher were too bothered with the mud to do this.

Certainly not any type of Fisher that I've ever seen. I'm going for full custom.

That is VERY possible... you could be onto something...

Now, I will say... IF it is a custom frame then the builder must have been a pro... Frame building is one chanllenge... smooth Fillet Brazing is an entirely different ball game...

One possibility is that this frame is something else... i.e. it WAS a fully tig welded frame.... and a builder customized the frame by changing the cable routing and then in the meantime for fun fillet brazed over the tig welds...

Does that make sense??

Regardless it's a pretty slick frame...

 

[pete_mcc]

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I love it. Personally I would think it would be a small shop Canadian builder or an East Coaster judging by those mud friendly features and the fine detailing. The original forks might have bent or might have been older biplane and were replaced for modern unicrowns prior to the respray. Either way it deserves to be put back in order, although I would be tempted to respray in a single gloss colour to really show off the fillets. Nothing looks better than glossy fillets:

 

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Hmm you are probably right... Re-spray and fork replaced... I may just get the fork crown fillet brazed over so that it matches and remove the fork eyelets...

Definatly gloss paint =)

Thanks!

 

[cyclotoine]

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Now, I will say... IF it is a custom frame then the builder must have been a pro... Frame building is one chanllenge... smooth Fillet Brazing is an entirely different ball game...

Actually, if they lay it on thick and spend a lot of time finishing anyone can make a fillet look good. I know from experience. A smooth fillet is very difficult, but smoothing out a bad one is not, it's just time consuming. you can't tell by looking at the finished product how good they are or were, you can also easily use bondo to fix a bad fillet. Since it was repainted we don't know. The tubing stickers are also out of period with the features of the bike as are the socketed fork drop outs... so that also tell us it was repainted/

 

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Now, I will say... IF it is a custom frame then the builder must have been a pro... Frame building is one chanllenge... smooth Fillet Brazing is an entirely different ball game...

Actually, if they lay it on thick and spend a lot of time finishing anyone can make a fillet look good. I know from experience. A smooth fillet is very difficult, but smoothing out a bad one is not, it's just time consuming. you can't tell by looking at the finished product how good they are or were, you can also easily use bondo to fix a bad fillet. Since it was repainted we don't know. The tubing stickers are also out of period with the features of the bike as are the socketed fork drop outs... so that also tell us it was repainted/

Ah, you make some good points there! I guess even a tiny but of Bondo would fix a horrible job

Not sure what to do with it now... Keep or sell? It was purchased on pure impulse...

 

[Mr.Toad]

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Not sure what to do with it now... Keep or sell? It was purchased on pure impulse...[/quote]

Keep it and continue to research, I bet you'll find enough clues to id the builder.

Plus, it does look quite nice. Great lines.

 

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Not sure what to do with it now... Keep or sell? It was purchased on pure impulse...

Keep it and continue to research, I bet you'll find enough clues to id the builder.

Plus, it does look quite nice. Great lines.[/quote]

Good call... I am quite curious... Thx!