Fat Chance Kickstarter

walleater":r3wzzfq6 said:
sinnerman":r3wzzfq6 said:
Im still tripping over the Future Shockabilly, the last one looks to me like a Horst design, or deviated variation.

What was the last full suspension bike made with steel that was any good,....? I can only think of the Cotic Rocket, but then as much as I like it, it hasn't set the world alight.

BTR (speaking of Kickstarter)?

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http://www.btr-fabrications.com/products/pinner/

Did the somerset boys use Kickstarter...?
 
sinnerman":14yfs9up said:
Im still tripping over the Future Shockabilly, the last one looks to me like a Horst design, or deviated variation.

What was the last full suspension bike made with steel that was any good,....? I can only think of the Cotic Rocket, but then as much as I like it, it hasn't set the world alight.

I don't think a future Shockabilly would be difficult. Horst linkage came out of patent last year, which is why all the companies that had single pivot bikes have got Horst bikes for 2015. You can licence DW Link or VPP for a fee. All of them are tried and proven linkage designs that work. Okay, none of them are anything earth shattering, but neither is a steel hardtail.
 
sinnerman":1u25bqzq said:
Did the somerset boys use Kickstarter...?

They did indeed. They didn't reach the full amount however decided to release the bike but to be built on order ( think was this but not 100% sure ) . At least when you pledged towards the Pinner you knew what the bike would exactly look like, a couple of years r&d, a video for you to get the idea and the exact geometry of the bike.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bt ... ike-for-ev
 
retroyetiguy":uhkfk34p said:
sinnerman":uhkfk34p said:
Did the somerset boys use Kickstarter...?

They did indeed. They didn't reach the full amount however decided to release the bike but to be built on order ( think was this but not 100% sure ) . At least when you pledged towards the Pinner you knew what the bike would exactly look like, a couple of years r&d, a video for you to get the idea and the exact geometry of the bike.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bt ... ike-for-ev

Im bloody impressed by that. And not just the Kickstart Program, but the fact they saw it through, to the end.
 
Yeah, I think they were expecting to get much more fundraising with all the hype it got all over the forums. It's good they kept the option to potential customers on a made to order system. I think putting every single detail onto the Kickstart program was outstanding and then keeping the option open even when their target wasn't reached.

I was happy when Chris announced that Fat was returning but his campaign simply isn't good enough. Who's going to build it? What geometry is it going to have? How is he going to make X amount of frames in such a short amount of time? BTR hit the nail on the head the first time round.
 
sinnerman":2bs1c5o0 said:
Im bloody impressed by that. And not just the Kickstart Program, but the fact they saw it through, to the end.


I'll second that, balls and commitment like that is to be applauded!
 
highlandsflyer":2rz4jjet said:
I really think we ought to wait until the funding target it hit before we rush to judgement. Why shouldn't a talent like Chance wait to formalise things once he is sure of the interest?

If this was Banksy no one would be asking what template he was going to use, they would all be rushing to lay down their dough for a real Banksy. You can't ride a Banksy.

I'm all for Chris getting back into the business, but it's clearly obvious now he is going to reach his target. From the first day of getting back into the business huge demand erupted in the mountain bike world from both new and old riders. I was extremely excited as well. I just wouldn't fork out 2.k on a bike from a manufacturer which hasn't released detailed images of the bike itself or announced who is building them. I'm a huge fan of Fats and I think Chris seems like a great guy but for much less money I'd prefer to go to my local builder and get a frame built out of steel to fit my needs.
 
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mr_ship":30om5y9h said:
Facebook page.....
"The frames will be made in the USA by Chris Chance. Because we are in "start up" mode, we will be working with another manufacturer until we get our shop up and running".


That ^^ reads like a contradiction, to me.

If I had to guess, I'd think that the first 10 expensive package frames would be done by CC, and the rest from a bulk manufacturer. I'm only surmising though - so happy to be corrected when someone can confirm for sure. :wink:
 
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mr_ship":1gsvp2gt said:
Facebook page.....
"The frames will be made in the USA by Chris Chance. Because we are in "start up" mode, we will be working with another manufacturer until we get our shop up and running".

As long as a Chinese welded bike is painted and assembled in the USA it can be called "made in the USA". So I guess him painting, placing the decals and signing each frame is enough to constitute "made by Chris Chance". Only the most naive would believe he's going to build 250 frames in 150 days.
 
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