ebay found a new way to screw with buyers

[Betsy]

It steps over the line for me.. certainly now worth eBay’s appeal / convenience.

 

[d8mok]

It steps over the line for me.. certainly now worth eBay’s appeal / convenience.

Yeh I’ve pulled the last few items off now. Only had a few old childhood toys listed so makes little difference.

No point selling if they will restrict payouts (I guess this will be the tactic)

It’s suggested online that not providing the NI will shoot you to the most wanted list for not complying. But I struggle to see what legal obligation I have to give eBay it. The value of items sold isn’t even above the threshold.

I’m sure back in the day , it was always said to not give anyone your NI apart from your employer. Now everyone wants it.

 

[Woz]

EBay now asking for my NI number for my personal account.

Aside from the fact I’m not confident that EBay isn’t gonna have a massive data breach at some point for this info , it annoys me slightly that it puts you on the radar for HMRC no doubt ( which nobody wants) and likely another column / cost come self assessment time

Already happened to me (and countless others).

They have all my ID on file due to KYC.

29 Spam Email messages last Tuesday all starting with my name in the subject title. Based on a single search I did 15mins prior.

Pi$$es me off.

 

[d8mok]

Already happened to me (and countless others).

They have all my ID on file due to KYC.

29 Spam Email messages last Tuesday all starting with my name in the subject title. Based on a single search I did 15mins prior.

Pi$$es me off.

I haven’t decided yet if I’m playing their game yet.

I’ve got a separate business account anyway. This is just personal crap.

It’s also confusing as they report for calendar years but HMRC work on tax years.

 

[d8mok]

I’ve also got a separate bank account for eBay purely because I didn’t want the details leaked and have the hassle of trying to recover a larger sum.

However at least a bank account is easy to cancel and set up. Your NI is unique and the gateway for an easy scam. Makes you wonder why they don’t ask for UTR instead as that’s useless.

 

[Betsy]

I went to a carboot sale at the weekend.. had to provide biometric data and a DNA mouth swab

 

[Woz]

Here, too, Government thinks it can tax it's way out of crisis of it's own making. I was harangued non stop until I provided identifiable personal information and threatened till I associated the eBay account with a UK bank account. I had to open a separate bank a/c to associate with this eBay account as I do not want eBay to leak my bank details as they undoubtedly will at some point. HMRC have been given the powers to snoop into all your bank transactions too. We are entering a dark period of British history where surveillance of everything we do has become normalised in pursuit of controlling what we are allowed to spend money on.

It's practically everywhere - not just the UK.

https://www.img.banquepopulaire.fr/...4092821/eai-fichedescriptive-7685-english.pdf

As for Ebay, the report to the Tax authority (which I get a copy of) is absolutely dreadful and incomplete; it doesn't even state if the item sold is New or Used I've lodged a complaint but of course no answer. Paypal even worse - had to specifically request all personal data to be handed over just so I can see how the account works, transaction history and the most basic of data.

I'm finding most on-line services are actually not telling the truth and are still claiming things like "quick, easy, and safe" - the world as moved on. Personally I trust a bank much more to keep proper records and constantly improve on-line security.

 

[Totoro]

This is terrible.
They should get the tax from genuine traders IMO, the people who spend their days making things and selling them on there, often while claiming not to work. Same with the people who shop in all the charity shops and alike just to buy things cheap and sell them straight on. It is unfair on people who just have lots of items they would like to part with though.

My brother has been selling my unwanted stuff for years as I just can't be bothered with the hassle. We don't sell much but it looks like we are not going to bother now. No doubt more things will get donated but also more things will probably just end up in the bin too.

cash is illiminated - and we all have to pay with Davoscoin so they can monitor and approve/deny accordingly

Trouble is most folk I know hate using cash anyway which I understand as carrying a wallet about (I do) isn't so much required these days, having pockets full of change is no fun and it is just so easy to pay with a phone or just carrying one card. I use cash as much as possible but I get their points. I think the cash users like me are on the losing side now.

There are other sites to sell things on of course for now, with much lower numbers but we might do that for now and just use ebay for buying from. Until "they" get their way and they all go like that.

It sucks

 

[d8mok]

Seems somone tried to fight eBay wanting ID proofs a few years ago via the FCA route.... which he lost

https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/decision/DRN-3973335.pdf