Early Colnago experts?

petgel

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Hi

I have just happened across an early 72 or 73 colnago which is claimed and appears to be an ex Molteni team frame.

I don’t have pics to hand but, although obviously a colnago early type super there are no clover leaf cutouts in lugs, only the typical colnago cotout under BB shell. I think that all production frames had the lug and fork crown cutouts by then (72/73), would this be correct? This has none in the fork crown either, only the two viper fang holes either side. It is 100% an early super but am wondering about the lack of cutouts only being for team frames (some had them some didn’t)

It has also been poorly painted dark blue so am wondering about paint code colours for earlier Molteni if anyone has a clue. Will post some pics when available.
 
Pics would help, but from what I think to know about Colnagos is that the first Colnago Supers in late 60s had no clubs/clovers. Those had crown with the two fangs and two holes on the sides, seven holes in the BB, "spearhead" seat stay tops and double hole cutouts on the topside of the head tube lugs and on the seat tube lug.
After 1969 when Colnago started using the club/clover symbol on his bikes some Supers did not have the club on top of the crown, but those still should have the club cutouts on the top side of the head tube lugs and on the seat tube lug. Some early 70s Supers had club inside a "C" on the fork crown and from around 73 just the club symbol and no holes on crown fangs. Is there a club cutout on the fork tangs?
I can't say for sure who build majority of the Team Molteni bikes arount that time, but didn't Merckx use variably De Rosa, Colnago and Kessels build bikes around 72/73.
Could it be Kessels or a De Rosa or something else? During that time both Kessels and De Rosa frames had the two fangs on the fork crown but no eyes/holes.
I've seen some frames with no special/distinctive cutouts/markings/pantographs and with forks that have the crown with the two fangs and two eyes
 
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Pics would help, but from what I think to know about Colnagos is that the first Colnago Supers in late 60s had no clubs/clovers. Those had crown with the two fangs and two holes on the sides, seven holes in the BB, "spearhead" seat stay tops and double hole cutouts on the topside of the head tube lugs and on the seat tube lug.
After 1969 when Colnago started using the club/clover symbol on his bikes some Supers did not have the club on top of the crown, but those still should have the club cutouts on the top side of the head tube lugs and on the seat tube lug. Some early 70s Supers had club inside a "C" on the fork crown and from around 73 just the club symbol and no holes on crown fangs. Is there a club cutout on the fork tangs?
I can't say for sure who build majority of the Team Molteni bikes arount that time, but didn't Merckx use variably De Rosa, Colnago and Kessels build bikes around 72/73.
Could it be Kessels or a De Rosa or something else? During that time both Kessels and De Rosa frames had the two fangs on the fork crown but no eyes/holes.
I've seen some frames with no special/distinctive cutouts/markings/pantographs and with forks that have the crown with the two fangs and two eyes
Thanks, it’s defo Colnago, not DeRosa or Kessels and it’s from very early 70s, seller told me 73. Have attached pics of same details the exception being no clovers on fork crown/headlug. Identical long pint lugs to blue frame no no cloverleafs

I have been told all production frames in early 70s wooukd have cutouts and usually Chrome where the team frames didn’t (although some did).
 

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