disc brakes verses rim brakes discuss!

[Neil G]

I would never buy cable operated discs, they are just as prone to the problems of Vs in the mud i.e mud/water getting in the cables and friction.

I've used Avid discs on quite a few bikes and they stopped well, had some leakage problems at the lever though (reservoir) even on the most expensive 'Ultimate' ones.

Idf I was going for disks now I think it would have to be good old Shimano XTs.

For me though it's grin and bear it....well, the nice gritty mud against rim sound of Vs. Isn't that part of riding old school bikes (and not being able to stop).

 

[MAXTHEROTTI]

some interesting points
have got disc setup now my next question is does any one know if those after market disc adapters will fit the weird drop out on my cannondale bote?

rob

 

[messiah]

Canti's on the Lloyd and V's on my Kona, but the two bikes that get the real hammering have disc brakes for a reason.

I enjoy riding my two retro bikes and riding around the dodgy performance of the brakes is part of the fun.

BITD I used to go through 2 rear rim sidewalls a year and brake pads lasted weeks. These days my disc brake pads last longer than my rims used to.

 

[Andy B]

V brakes have their place, they are very good in the dry & a weight weenie option.

BB7's if (for some reason) you prefer cable discs, they're probably the best cable discs on the market.

Hydraulic discs are stunningly good in the slop-fest that is now a British Summer :roll:

Love my Hope Mono Mini's & Hayes Nines with braided hoses

But no matter what brakes you have, if you have shite tyres you ain't stopping...

 

[Neil G]

Mountain Mayhem takes it to another level though, I don't think tyres made much difference there!

TBH I was very glad to be running discs last year as the mud was excessive to say the least, I think if I'd been runing Vs I would have got in a lot of trouble.

Wierd how with discs our expecations have risen so much and Vs seem to be dead and buried. I remember going out on some epic rides in the mud with cantis and, obviously, put up with it as there was no alternative at the time!

 

[Pickle]

Mountain Mayhem takes it to another level though,
.........

I think if I'd been runing Vs I would have got in a lot of trouble.

Trouble stopping, no......having to stop and a clear the mud a few times, yes

 

[Andy R]

Wierd how with discs our expecations have risen so much and Vs seem to be dead and buried. I remember going out on some epic rides in the mud with cantis and, obviously, put up with it as there was no alternative at the time!

I think that disc brakes are a fairly unique item in mtb "evolution" - improved technology that is actually a whole lot easier to fit, set-up and maintain than their predecessors.

Same with trials and enduro bikes - funny how we forget having drum brakes that just didn't work for ages after deep water sections (or else suddenly snatched on when you least expected it) and all the maintenance time spent cleaning all the crap out of them, not to mention re-lubing (and re-bushing) pivots and lubing and replacing cables.

I think that it's the same with anything - you only fully appreciate the advancements when you go back to earlier technology.

 

[dbmtb]

Hydraulic discs for hilly offroading.

Magura rim brakes for anything else with flat bars.

 

[Neil G]

Wierd how with discs our expecations have risen so much and Vs seem to be dead and buried. I remember going out on some epic rides in the mud with cantis and, obviously, put up with it as there was no alternative at the time!

I think that disc brakes are a fairly unique item in mtb "evolution" - improved technology that is actually a whole lot easier to fit, set-up and maintain than their predecessors.

Same with trials and enduro bikes - funny how we forget having drum brakes that just didn't work for ages after deep water sections (or else suddenly snatched on when you least expected it) and all the maintenance time spent cleaning all the crap out of them, not to mention re-lubing (and re-bushing) pivots and lubing and replacing cables.

I think that it's the same with anything - you only fully appreciate the advancements when you go back to earlier technology.

Definately an important step forward in MTB evolution.

I do remember some of the early discs on Mountain Cycles bikes and they were always knocked for lack of modulation and weight....things have definately changed since then. I wonder how long it will be before you can't even buy rim brakes.

 

[heathy]

Right then chaps, if your worried about weight then how about these...
Ive been using these for a year now with no probs at all

http://www.hopegb.com/voir_mmpf.html
295 grams


Then there is these too not sure what they are like.

http://www.sram.com/en/avid/hydraulicdi ... timate.php
333 grams

I know that when compared to xtr v's there isn't much in it. Except the stopping power.
V's are best kept for retrobikes imo