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highlandsflyer
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The bus was moving out of a left turn lane straight across the junction, but also veering to the right, ironically in anticipation of the cycle lane marked out on the other side of the junction where there is no bus lane.
The gap was there, and the cyclist just happened to enter it as the bus powered into it and closed it off.
50/50, but the bus driver should consider themselves as lucky as the cyclist.
Just glad he is ok.
The gap was there, and the cyclist just happened to enter it as the bus powered into it and closed it off.
50/50, but the bus driver should consider themselves as lucky as the cyclist.
Just glad he is ok.
I don't think the bus is moving to the right, it's more a case of the lens giving the impression of the lane narrowing - the road markings are linear and the bus is inside it as the cyclist approaches the gap. It's just a much tighter gap than he anticipated.
I can't see anything other than a cyclist acting like a tool to be honest - what could the bus driver have done differently? If the vehicle in front of you isn't indicating (in this case the bus) you can assume it will either go straight on, or it will turn without warning. Either way would anyone on here attempt that move?
I can't see anything other than a cyclist acting like a tool to be honest - what could the bus driver have done differently? If the vehicle in front of you isn't indicating (in this case the bus) you can assume it will either go straight on, or it will turn without warning. Either way would anyone on here attempt that move?
highlandsflyer
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The bus is definitely moving over to the right, watch the part after where the video artist goes around it. As I pointed out, the road becomes a cycle lane on the left as it continues, the driver is getting over to the right hand side.
Basically the bus has moved into the cyclist as much as anything else.
If the situation had been more serious, all this would have come out in the investigation.
Thanks God it did not.
Like I say, both are at fault.
Yes I would have ridden like that, and I did every day I was working. I would have powered ahead into the gap though, not waited for that to happen.
Now getting on to the issue of single speed bikes though, and I don't want to be flamed for suggesting that was the problem...
Basically the bus has moved into the cyclist as much as anything else.
If the situation had been more serious, all this would have come out in the investigation.
Thanks God it did not.
Like I say, both are at fault.
Yes I would have ridden like that, and I did every day I was working. I would have powered ahead into the gap though, not waited for that to happen.
Now getting on to the issue of single speed bikes though, and I don't want to be flamed for suggesting that was the problem...
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The driver could have taken observations as they should and, on seeing a developing situation, could have held back on their manoeuvre. He/she clearly did not even look in their driver side mirror for overtaking vehicles. As one of the slowest vehicles on the road in traffic in London, there is no forgiving that.
To then veer over and steal the space from a cyclist now in peril and accelerate into that space almost killing them is manslaughter all bar the shouting.
To then veer over and steal the space from a cyclist now in peril and accelerate into that space almost killing them is manslaughter all bar the shouting.
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The cyclist is, I'm fairly certain, riding brakeless.
The bus is indeed pulling out to the right (you can see the angle of the side of the bus relative to the lane division) but the cyclist is also swinging in sharply from the central reservation, where he was probably outside the bus driver's field of view. Once he's past the black hatchback, he's committed to reaching the fast-closing gap before the bus does, but the bus is already accelerating.
It looks as though he's freewheeling into the crash. In fact he's in a well-controlled rear-wheel skid: he has no other means of braking.
In the circumstances, it's hard to find fault with the bus driver.
The bus is indeed pulling out to the right (you can see the angle of the side of the bus relative to the lane division) but the cyclist is also swinging in sharply from the central reservation, where he was probably outside the bus driver's field of view. Once he's past the black hatchback, he's committed to reaching the fast-closing gap before the bus does, but the bus is already accelerating.
It looks as though he's freewheeling into the crash. In fact he's in a well-controlled rear-wheel skid: he has no other means of braking.
In the circumstances, it's hard to find fault with the bus driver.
I spent 5 years driving through London, and as much as I love cycling, most of the guys that ride bikes in the city are complete headcases!!!! They have no thought or concern for anyone else driving or walking!!!! They undertake, overtake and about 98% of the time jump red lights!! I'm surprised more arent killed to be honest!
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