Claud Butler

lemusrey":1dx9c6js said:
MTB magazines use young ladies to sell bikes these days look at a magazine from 10 years ago no girls just bikes and as for reviews consider this if they slagged everything off nobody would send them anything to review.


I accept at the price it may well get good reviews have you noticed that it's a specialized \ Priciple frame built in the same factory companys don't design products of their own just like the shared floor plan of say a sabb and vaxhall I didn't mean to rude but it's not yeti is and it's true we wouldn't work for the far east rates would we. Think about 60 year ago a shop could build you a frame they did just shift stock in plastic bags now we have the constant merry go round of product change which is good because I can get parts cheap on the web but at what cost I certainly never go to my local bike shop and there you have the answer why go to a shop when you can a badly built bike from the web no product service no product love bland homganized products or plastic shapes that change yearly which yo can't repair.

PS Im not and OAP

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lemusrey":1uwp596l said:
MTB magazines use young ladies to sell bikes these days look at a magazine from 10 years ago no girls just bikes and as for reviews consider this if they slagged everything off nobody would send them anything to review.


I accept at the price it may well get good reviews have you noticed that it's a specialized \ Priciple frame built in the same factory companys don't design products of their own just like the shared floor plan of say a sabb and vaxhall I didn't mean to rude but it's not yeti is and it's true we wouldn't work for the far east rates would we. Think about 60 year ago a shop could build you a frame they did just shift stock in plastic bags now we have the constant merry go round of product change which is good because I can get parts cheap on the web but at what cost I certainly never go to my local bike shop and there you have the answer why go to a shop when you can a badly built bike from the web no product service no product love bland homganized products or plastic shapes that change yearly which yo can't repair.

PS Im not and OAP
so wrong in so many ways.

Bike mags have hardly any young ladies selling bike in them, dunno what sort of mags you're reading, bit they aren't MTB mags

Magazines do give bad reviews to lots of products

CB frames are designed by CB, yes they may be made in the same factory as several other manufacturers, but not the same frames.

I don't know how you can call anything other than a Yeti bland & badly built, that just stinks of snobbery & ignorance.
 
Have you considered why their aren't sites about olds falcon's and claud butler's? People are bored of product change and while consumes vote with their wallets we will end up like the food situation 3 or 4 super markets. This why people are riding fixed single speed bikes because a 40 year claud's kills a cheap MTB for commuting and it's individual without costing an arm and a leg

Why not get you cheap cycling products from Tesco's never mind customer service or people that actually know or care about cycling.
 
lemusrey":25gev0zg said:
Have you considered why their aren't sites about olds falcon's and claud butler's? People are bored of product change and while consumes vote with their wallets we will end up like the food situation 3 or 4 super markets. This why people are riding fixed single speed bikes because a 40 year claud's kills a cheap MTB for commuting and it's individual without costing an arm and a leg

Why not get you cheap cycling products from Tesco's never mind customer service or people that actually know or care about cycling.

No, we're all consumer lemmings here
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We can bemoan the demise of heritage in some English brands - it truly may well be a tragedy. But the problem was of our own making. We (as a nation) used (and were encouraged to) use our wallets as our guide for our consumerism.

If true English / British brands have simply become like the rest (mainly) branding / design shops who off-load / off-shore their manufacturing, and simply buy in bits and assemble them, it's our own damned fault (as a nation). Because either as consumers or shareholders, we fostered that need.

As to this actual frame / bike - it looks very nice, and equally as nice as any Kona / Specialised / Marin / Diamondback of similar vintage, that used the same / similar frames / tubing from far east suppliers.
 
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