Breivik Trial Spoiler Alert

[highlandsflyer]

Is Kevin Costner too old to play him?

How about Samuel L Jackson?

I should imagine Breivik would be delighted.

 

[Neil]

I think it's maybe time to return to long sentences, with hard labour, no perks, no way of him becoming a celebrity or infamous - just 40 years of being shackled, and having to smash up rocks with a sledgehammer.

Then at night, in his "free" time, he has to superglue all the rocks together, ready to smash them all the next day.

I think people like that are too far gone / invested in their perspective, for any sort of restorative justice to have any bearing. So take away contact with the outside world and any way of him being celebrated, or having an easy life. Make him spend the next 40 or so years on the chain gang.

 

[NAILTRAIL96]

Even with the trial the only expanation will be one of mental illness, there will be little or no understanding.
I'm not sure there should even be a trial, to admit guilt but enter a plea of not guilty to gain a public platform should have been a no brainer for the prosecutor.
Mental box, and leave him there.

 

[Neil]

Even with the trial the only expanation will be one of mental illness, there will be little or no understanding.
I'm not sure there should even be a trial, to admit guilt but enter a plea of not guilty to gain a public platform should have been a no brainer for the prosecutor.
Mental box, and leave him there.

Thing is, if he was deemed to be mentally ill, he'd be legally viewed as being not responsible - or not wholly responsible for his actions, and what happened next would be more about treating somebody with an illness / medical condition.

If, after evaluation, he is considered "sane" - or more likely, not insane, and incontrol of his actions and capable of understanding the consequences, whatever happens next will be on the assumption he can be held accountable for his actions.

As to the trial, well due process will have to be seen as observed - but I don't see that there's a benefit to publicity and televising of it. I don't expect the press not to report on it, but broadcasting it is another matter entirely.

 

[silverclaws]

I am just waiting for it, waiting for the analysis into his mental reasoning and waiting for what disorder he has speculated to have and will not be surprised if it is named as one linked to autism, for if you understand some of the ways some forms of autistic spectrum disorders think, you will see Breivik.

But why a disorder, why indeed, for you will notice we seem unable to accept that a man can just be bad these days with the new psychology religion in power, they have got to have some kind of disorder to explain a bad person's actions and there so we may understand instead of plain not understand and just deal with him as the law requires.

 

[lewis1641]

i think the majority of people have something wrong with them to be honest

 

[NAILTRAIL96]

I agree the press reports and televising are very different but the fact he did this will make him mentally ill.
He still did it and whether or not they find him guilty or mentally incompetent the effect is the same, he's not getting out.

What I can't understand is why they are so keen to give him his day in court before assessing him properly. Once sentenced his lawyers will claim the stress of the trial has had a damaging effect on him and he'll end up in a hospital anyway.

 

[silverclaws]

The Scandinavians are a different kind of people to us they live in a society less stressed than us and so are not familiar to the knee jerk reactions that we do, so what they are doing is for them to do in their own way, but for sure he isn't getting out, but I still wonder if him on the stage is healthy for the rest looking on.

As to mental illness a difference in thinking is a difference in thinking, not necessarily a mental disorder and why I mentioned ASD, is because it is very popular now with more and more being diagnosed, but to what ends is a scary thought with some already reacting badly against even the mildest forms.

 

[Raging_Bulls]

I agree with Silverclaws. We had a couple of those murders here over the past years.

First there was Hans Van Temsche, who was walking around on the streets with a shotgun, shooting coloured people at random.
Then there was Kim De Gelder, who went berserk in a child daycare center with a knife.

Both of them were linked to ASD (Van Temsche was even diagnosed with the exact same form as me), which made my friends scared that I too would go on a killing spree.
So whenever I hear about such incidents nowadays, I'm like "oh sh*t, here we go again ..."

It's all too easy to blame it on any disorder, and often stigmatizes those who live a normal life despite said disorder.

 

[highlandsflyer]

The Scandinavians are a different kind of people to us they live in a society less stressed than us and so are not familiar to the knee jerk reactions that we do

Interested to know what this is based on?