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Bit of info needed on this style of Kona drop out....
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one-eyed_jim
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That style of dropout came in in '97 for the upper-end steel frames. The '97 catalogue only shows them on the Caldera and Hot, which were made in the USA, but Explosifs and Kilaueas also came with them in '97. The Cinder Cone and cheaper steel frames kept a forged dropout at first, but within a couple of years even Lava Domes had the cast socket version.
I don't know who made them, but I'd guess at Long Shen in Taiwan. Ritchey socket dropouts are a slightly different style, but it's possible they were both made by the same factory. My 2002 True Temper Explosif actually has Ritchey cast socket dropouts!
Some early '97 Hots and Calderas actually came with these very similar Mountain Goat dropouts. See the little goat?
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The Kona version had a "K" in the casting.
I don't know who made them, but I'd guess at Long Shen in Taiwan. Ritchey socket dropouts are a slightly different style, but it's possible they were both made by the same factory. My 2002 True Temper Explosif actually has Ritchey cast socket dropouts!
Some early '97 Hots and Calderas actually came with these very similar Mountain Goat dropouts. See the little goat?
download/file.php?id=275537
The Kona version had a "K" in the casting.
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That K is the little dimple you can see on the top socket.
Yes, what he said above.
That K is the little dimple you can see on the top socket.
Yes, what he said above.
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Brilliant guys, thanks for all the info!
It's been sold to me as a Kilauea frame from 1997, but as you can see, it's been powder coated and the stuff is so thick it's making it impossible to see things like the 'K' (which I never knew about!) or the serial number on the BB.
Very happy with it, especially the weight, so it makes sense that it's high end. I believe these were Columbus tubing of some sort if a 1997...?
Brilliant guys, thanks for all the info!
It's been sold to me as a Kilauea frame from 1997, but as you can see, it's been powder coated and the stuff is so thick it's making it impossible to see things like the 'K' (which I never knew about!) or the serial number on the BB.
Very happy with it, especially the weight, so it makes sense that it's high end. I believe these were Columbus tubing of some sort if a 1997...?
one-eyed_jim
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If it's a '97 Kilauea it's Columbus Cyber. They went to Reynolds 631 in '98.LikeClockwork":1occ1cky said:
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Thanks again.
Can confirm it is indeed a K embossed in each drop out, despite the powder coat can now see this if held up to the light....!
Thanks again.
Can confirm it is indeed a K embossed in each drop out, despite the powder coat can now see this if held up to the light....!
Those are Dew drops.
They were introduced on the Explosif and Kilauea in 1997 and were added to other models in later years. They were created to stop frames from breaking around this area; something that's happened to me with more than one Cinder Cone over the years. They are pretty neat.
Don't get confused with the Caldera or Hot versions of the same era. I've never seen what they looked like on Hots but the early run of that production year from Altitude cycles used older Mountain Goat drop-outs, since the company was a reincarnation of Mountain Goat. They are quite different in that they are two pieces welded together as opposed to the singular Dew Drop.
It means they can be used on any sized frame, positioned accordingly, then welded. I'm sure there's a more technical explanation, but that's the one that was given to me, and the one I can imagine!
For latter Hots and Calderas of the 1997 range, I'm 99.9% sure different drop-outs would have been used, potentially Dew drops, maybe something else.
Either way...it's a real shame the Kilauea here has lost it's original paint. It's a beautiful colour.
They were introduced on the Explosif and Kilauea in 1997 and were added to other models in later years. They were created to stop frames from breaking around this area; something that's happened to me with more than one Cinder Cone over the years. They are pretty neat.
Don't get confused with the Caldera or Hot versions of the same era. I've never seen what they looked like on Hots but the early run of that production year from Altitude cycles used older Mountain Goat drop-outs, since the company was a reincarnation of Mountain Goat. They are quite different in that they are two pieces welded together as opposed to the singular Dew Drop.
It means they can be used on any sized frame, positioned accordingly, then welded. I'm sure there's a more technical explanation, but that's the one that was given to me, and the one I can imagine!
For latter Hots and Calderas of the 1997 range, I'm 99.9% sure different drop-outs would have been used, potentially Dew drops, maybe something else.
Either way...it's a real shame the Kilauea here has lost it's original paint. It's a beautiful colour.
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The tech docs refer to them as Kona 'New Drop'
Not Dew?
The tech docs refer to them as Kona 'New Drop'
Not Dew?
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It might be a west coast thing, but I always heard them as Dew after the legend that is Dr Dew.
It might be a west coast thing, but I always heard them as Dew after the legend that is Dr Dew.
