Anyone got any insight on this frameset?

SLX tubing by the look of it.
SLX has the rifling at the ends and TSX has it the full length of the top and down tubes.
I will check but that's what it looks like from memory. Either or, they are both great tubesets from Columbus. Maybe Reynolds did a similar rifled tubeset?

Jamie
 
And maybe you now know more than I

History I purchased this frame as part of a job lot of 4 from Perry cycles in Woolwich the other frames were a Herne hill track frame, a Perry 531 and a Viking Path frame. Paul (shop owner) had this Frame in for a refurb back in 2005 this is when it was painted.
As the story goes due to a family tragedy the owner never came back for it and it had sat in the shop upstairs for nearly 9 years and judging by the amount of dust on it at the time it surely looked like it had be hanging around for a long time.
When I got it I asked Paul about its history and it was him who told me the story of the previous owner.
With this knowledge I gave it no more mind as to what tube set it was I posted on LFGSS trying to get info as well as on Retro bike which is where I got my answer to the builder Ron Thomas and his association with Pat Rohan I was just trying like Max to find out who had made it. I know its no Tommassini as they branded their names as Tomas and its never been in the hands of Hiliary Stone.
I tried to sell the same frame on LFGSS for £250 but had no takers then, but I didn't even know what tube set it was. I went back to Paul at Perry cycles to try and find this out and it was then that he told me he believed it was 753, I had no reason to doubt him and took his word for it Paul is a pretty genuine chap and I have had many dealings with him and get my frames painted through his shop. It is with this knowledge that I sold it with all conviction being a 753.
Now you all know.
It is without a doubt a top notch frame built with a quality tube set, I probably would of paid more attention to it if it where my size and kept it.
 
I thought it was for sale on LFGSS for £200. Just out of curiosity how much diud you sell it for?

Shaun
 
I bought it from kingbling for £170 posted.

In response to Kingbling- Understood, thanks. I suppose a bit of a red herring was you misquoting the frame and forks combined weight coming in at less than 2kg, and that the Seatpost size was 27.0, which is more common than 27.2 for a 753 frame.

753 is pretty special, and rare. So naturally I'm a bit bummed out that it turns out the frame I just bought isn't what it was sold as, even though it is nice.
 
Re:

Sounds like this is a Columbus frame with unusual internal rifling but this is outside my knowledge.

For what it’s worth, weight of my two 753 frames / forks (58 cm) are 1747g and 669g and 1797g and 695g respectively. They have 27.2 seatposts.

Reynolds did make frames with internal flats in the early 1990s but they do not look like in the photo. If you put your finger into the seat tube through the BB shell you can feel the flats. I have a 731os from 1992 and this weighs 1819g and 701g (58 cm) – had 8 internal flats in the area of the butted tubing, not full length. Also 27.2 seatpost.
 
Thanks for the info Kingbling, my apologies for the red herring of Tomas, realise now why it didn't look quite right. Also obviously not this I remember Hilary Stone selling so again my apologies for suggesting it may have been. Just because there is rifling in the fork steerer doesn't make the frame Columbus.
Surely there is some way of measuring 753.
Personally, after hearing KB's account of investigating the frame and Paul at Perry cycles saying he believes it to be 753 then unless someone can show why its not then I would go with the opinion of the people who looked into it before you received it. Not that mine/our opinions are not worth anything, its just we are basing ours solely on what we see here and the limited or partial information.
So unless there is rifling on the inside of the main tubes then I would go with 753, no reason not to really. So fingers into the bottom of the seat tube.

Jamie
 
Had a look and can't see any rifling in the seatube

Hilary stone replied and said based on the weight he would have serious doubts that the frame is built from 753. Apart from that on viewing the inside of the BB there looks to be evidence of brass from brazing (please see earlier picture, let me know if you think I'm wrong), 753 uses silver solder only as I was informed earlier in the thread
 
Whilst it's not my place to say I think there doesn't seem to be any subterfuge on behalf of the seller and at £150 (less postage) without the need for a refinish the frame is cracking value even if not 753.

I guess the way to resolve this is for the buyer / seller either to call it a day or agree on a refund and return.

Shaun
 
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