Theres no secret click on shimano either, it's just pushing the cable further past the last click isn't it? I did wonder that the cable pull would be different. I/m sure I read a thread on here about someone making a 9 speed indexing washer to replace the ones in the XT thumbies.legrandefromage":35xxcusv said:Theres no secret 9th click on Suntour thumbies and besides it would be the wrong cable pull!