June 2012 BoTM 'Dead End Special' - Nominations Please
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AirPressure
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I submit this http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=205435
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Nader
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I think anyone can define it for themselvesmfh126":1k9wu6ui said:
...for example (sorry for out of topic but maybe this is a special kind of "Dead End") A crazy type like me always does something crazy!
The story: Years ago I had to ride long distance along the sandy coast. Of course it was not easy, so I thought to myself, I could take special hubs
Although it was fantastic to ride with it, now I would say my concept was one of the biggest mistakes at this bike!
years later ...the evolution
In my opinion, the Marin/Manitou FRS were excellent technical development but unfortunately this kind of rear sus has not developed further.
Cheers (..and not a lot of questions please
)Yes, you're quite right. I've set the chaps to it and we'll have one right after the chimpanzee typewriter pool has written the succinct definition of "what is Retro?" and "when is Retro not Retro but just second hand?" as well as other nuggets of philosophical gold that the likes of René Descartes would struggle to get to grips with before developing a head ache and going for a nap.
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mfh126":wsj988y7 said:
I'm more than happy with all entries so far, yes some dead ends are bigger than others but I don't see why people make it such a big deal when all they have to do is vote for the bike they like and think best fits the definition.
There are still plenty of bikes that could be submitted.
Maybe a few more examples will help people:
Trek 9000 - mentioned previously but undamped rubber for suspension didn't go far.
Pro-Flex - Elastomers and Grivin forks
Trek Y bike - URT done all wrong
Klein Mantra - URT done better but looks all wrong and early ones prone to breaking due to design faults
Mountain machine - 24"/20" wheel combo
Off road tandems - I think it would be easy to argue these are a dead end especially if you've tried tight single track...
I'm forgotten the name of that metal tubing which was produced and then quickly removed from the market but anything made from that would do.
Just because they are rubbish in design doesn't mean they aren't fun to ride. But if the ride makes you laugh and say "What were they thinking when they designed this?" then there is a
Parts wise there are endless parts produced to fix a problem which never exisited or made things worse.
170mm off road stem - I have one but can't say I'll ever use it
HED aero wheels for off road - look cool but
White porcs and white tyres in general
etc
etc
Back in the early days we used to nominate other peoples bikes we thought were worthy of BOTM and so I'd like to nominate Aaran's 91 Nishiki Alien ACX. Note: I'll check with Aaran that he is happy for it to be entered or would like to choose a different bike.
Now the main justification is the frame. I doubt many could agrue that the bolted rear end on a hard tail took off as a design - I'm sure some will try though
Also worthy of mention is a fork with a removable crown which we no longer see - well not in single crown forks.
Now the main justification is the frame. I doubt many could agrue that the bolted rear end on a hard tail took off as a design - I'm sure some will try though
Also worthy of mention is a fork with a removable crown which we no longer see - well not in single crown forks.
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