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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:54 am 
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I found this one on the local adds last week.
There was some interest for it on the Dutch forum, but I was the lucky one who picked it up last friday. :)
There is very little info on the web about this bike, only a few pictures and a brochure.
The manufacturer is Swiss, they wanted to make a carbon E-stay which they build up to any specifications the customer wanted.
Rigid with their own forks or any other bouncy ones.
Any colours or components were possible.

Mine luckely has the original forks, which are even more rare then the frame.
Both frame and forks are structurally good, but have a lot of scratches.
I hope I can polish them, other wise I might respray them, and get some new decals.

When I picked it up I hoped it would be from the first owner who could inform me a lot more, but it was a different story.
The owner found this in the woods near his house...
He reported it to the police and after one year nobody claimed it, so he was allowed to sell it.
I think it had a pretty rough life, with all the scrathes.
It has a very short seatpost which was shortened to allow the seat to be in the lowest position, I think it was used by a child at some time.

It has some nice components on it, Mavic rear mech and chainrings, M730 hubs with Ritchey rims.
I don't know yet how I will build it up, I might go for an all European build.

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More pictures here:
http://www.pinkbike.com/u/jamisdiablo/a ... tmann-RAM/


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:31 pm 
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That's seriously cool!

Stealth bike build?


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:56 pm 
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Wicked bike! That'll look immense after a refurb - defo stick with Mavic.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:32 pm 
B.o.T.Y. Winner / Gold Trader
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That looks really nice fella, good to see the positive comments

i remember when i had mine it was described as a hairdryer!

:lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:39 pm 
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That is one funky monkey. 8)

Out of interest, does it weigh as much as it looks like it should?


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:48 pm 
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retrobikeguy wrote:
That looks really nice fella, good to see the positive comments

i remember when i had mine it was described as a hairdryer!

:lol:

:D when I squeeze my eyes I can imagine that.
It isn't my first choice of looks, I like the skinny steel ones better.
But if they are so rare and for sale within a 45 minutes drive, I can't resist.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:50 pm 
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cherrybomb wrote:
That is one funky monkey. 8)

Out of interest, does it weigh as much as it looks like it should?

Cheers. It isn't very light, that is for sure. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:58 pm 
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I just bought these:

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Think they will look great in this strange looking frame. 8)
And it is one more step to an all European build.

I got so far:
- Swiss frame ans forks
- Dutch wheels
- French mech and chainrings

Any suggestions for other European parts?
- Shifters (Sachs?)
- Brakes (?)
- Cranks (Middleburn / Mavic?)
- Headset (Hope? Did they make them in '92?)
- BB (Hope? Did they make them in '92?)
- Stem / handlebars


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:15 pm 
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Here comes the Bat Bike!


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 Post subject: Re: Hartmann RAM '92
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:29 pm 
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I love the bike as it is!
Really interesting looking bike.
In my opinion, those new wheels will ruin it. Too much black 'plastic' and especially with that lovely Mavic kit.


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