Who can tell me which model of GT this titanium frame is? I've never seen before.

[henrysthreeironbands]

I would think the opposite, a shop that has access to lots of tubing and ordinary welders, and that is considering expanding into making bicycle frames. In particular bc they apparently did not put much weight onto the matter of weight

 

[ferrus]

Fair point, could well be. Might've been a test frame for such a shop.
They had absolutely no intention of ever passing it off as a Zaskar though

 

[PhillB]

My guess is that it was likely that someone commissioned it. I think if it was intended to be a counterfeit, then they would have made more of an attempt to replicate the GT top tube end cap at least. That same element suggests to me that it wasn't a GT Prototype too as the end cap and the shape of the top tube as it intersects the seat tube is on of their design signatures - or certainly was in the 90s anyway.

Perhaps, if it turned out really heavy, that's why it is languishing as a frame in a warehouse...still.. it can't be as heavy as my '89 Timberline.

 

[baron von greenback]

That's fair enough someone had it built for themselves you would have built it wouldn't you after going through all that's messing about money etc but the problem I have he's selling it as a GT ti frame

 

[baron von greenback]

And I don't want to bring another business into this because he's done everything right and doesn't deserve to be mentioned in same breath but he selling repo ringle and there good but so you then have a choice to buy repo or genuine but when that choose is taken away that's what I find wrong and your paying genuine prices bastard

 

[vtwinvince]

My area of expertise is Imperial German orders and decorations, and the Chinese fakers have 'infiltrated' this area of collecting hugely in the last couple of years, along with other fakers in eastern Europe and elsewhere. It is a terrible trend, as it ruins the hobby in the short-term pursuit of profit. And being an apologist for fakers is not cool, period.

 

[ferrus]

I agree. I fecking hate it.
This frame isn't faking anything.

 

[bikeworkshop]

The post title calls it a GT.

 

[ferrus]

Yep, the OP definitely started the thread trying to imply that, then backtracked somewhat; "I don't think it's entirely certain it's a counterfeit" etc.
They seemed a bit evasive about where the frame was located too. I also think the welding 'not up to modern CH standards' was a BS attempt to claim it's from the '90s..
But none of that makes the frame itself a 'fake'. There's no logic behind that assumption at all. Folk seem to be caught up with the OPs lack of transparency or agenda and confusing/conflating things.

 

[baron von greenback]

No it's not the op pissey saying it's a GT the actual guy that's selling it on the china site is selling it as a GT ti frame I don't know what the description is as I didn't join that's wrong if he said unknown ti frame and priced according fair enough but he priced it at £800 and that makes people think they found a bargain or a rarer GT and that's the issue I have if I buy a fake replica and I pay fake replica prices I don't mind because I take my chances and I know what I bought if I bought it been happy as hell posted it on here and been totally shot down in flames I would have been devastated and I guarantee I wouldn't have got my money back