What are these mystery bikes

glenfield2

Retro Newbie
I’ve got a couple of bikes here which are proving tough to identify - no obvious frame numbers, no decals.
I’m hoping a few picture details may help. Notably the white one has unusual seat stay/seat post joints.
The blue/white one is in Reynolds 708 tubing but seems pretty generic otherwise.
Any thoughts?
 

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I’m taking a closer look at the blue/white bike. This is the only frame numbering I can find.
 

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lug pattern of azure laddie be Prugnat 62/d

Prugnat 62:d lug set .webp

ends set of la blanca be Campag Racing

Campag ends, catalogue 16, 1968 .webp

seat cluster of la blanca appears Brampton Victor inspired

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This Harry Hall just appeared in my eBay, colour scheme very similar although is a common 80s/90s style, seat cluster, brake bridge and tops of seat stays identical to your blue/white one.

Harry Hall
IMG_6197.webp

Yours
IMG_6198.webp
IMG_6199.webp
 
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