What 456 equivalents are out there ?

[coomber]

If you are talking bikes as opposed to frames, the saracen zen (aluminium) are brilliant bikes. I've had two now, accelerate really quickly but nice and slack and can take a beating.

 

[reanimation]

My Bfe doesnt feel flexi at all, though I've not rallied it as hard as it could be. solid on the downs!