Univega alpina ? Any good (good base for a backpacking bike)?

sefton1275gt

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I have the chance to buy a nice looking Univega Alpina

I'm looking for a nice strong base to build a bike packing bike.

I don't know the first thing about Univega's.
 
I seem to remember some suffer from rust in the chainstays due to water being trapped there, but the 2 I have owned were fine. I could be wrong I often am.

Very underrated bikes in my opinion, and ride nice in mtb form, with slicks and laden.
 
I'm a big Univega fan, had an Alpina bought new in the nineties.
Its a great bike, as others said already, just not sure if it's the right ride as backpacking, long distance bike?
I have bit of experience, have ridden mine on bike packing trips to Austria and Tuscany back in time.

The steel frame and stays are pretty flexible, offer comfort and is quite light. But it has typically a sporty geometry as popular in the 90ties and a pretty short head tube, no suspension adopted fork till 1997 and therfore a really low front. Plus originally a flatbar and long flat stem.

I would rather keep my eyes open for an 700c Univega bike (via xxx series), those are more like a modern gravel bikes and offer a more comfortable riding position.

The Alpina would need at least a bit of tricks or creativity with regards to stem and bar combinations.
 
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I owned one (the SE variant, whatever that added which i dont recall) when it was part of an end of line stock at a local ‘bike warehouse’ store (ie a place with probably about a 100 bikes of various brands, mostly sub/boutique brands but within the masses were often end of line quality items too). Having previously worn out (literally) a Diamondback MTB after two years crazy hard usage, i bought from the same outlet after digging through the stock and came across the Univega - it was under my budget, had a decent set of mechanics (full Shimano Altus/Alivio and braking) and rims (far in excess of what was commonly found at the budget).

Only thing i did to it mod wise was a longer more forward stem (as i was often aero) with a set of clamps and a short bar for extreme aero riding, and replaced the brakes shoes with Fibrax Black shoes (the hardest compound) and a set of Conti 26x1.5 slick boots and 130 psi rated tubes so running tyre pressures around 90-100 psi. Somewhat extreme, i guess, but my riding style had rapidly made that degree of technical mods a necessity.

However, none of that was necessary for most people or probably worth it (bar maybe the new shoes and possibly the slicks if you’re mostly roading). As supplied, was properly dialled in and i can safely say the complimentary reviews from back in the day about it being a budget bike that punched above its class weren’t BS.

Put it this way, seeing 45mph+ and still being stable wasn’t uncommon (the first 45mph test run was pre-mods). Post mods, with aero advantage fully employed, saw nearly 65mph on dual carriageway in top gear, another twenty coming off a long A-Road down a two mile steep hill.

When i eventually traded it in against an fully alu framed rigid bike, with mods still in place, i actually came away with something i applied the same mods too.

Outside of regular bike mods, i built a li-po powered lighting (prototyped on the Univega and fully finished on the replacement) with dual rear lights which alternated to brake lights when braking and front/rear indicators using an array of SB leds for each ‘lamp’) with a backup battery and circuit and a third li-ion cell used to run my mobile radio transceiver and scanner, with bonded offset mount off the seat post for a dual band mobile collinear antenna, the scanner wideband antenna was on an offset from the long front bar stem.

So as for the obvious question about was the basic bike good, clearly so, easily modded to suit my more extreme usage, definately.

Value at the time, excellent, and if sentiment was a value multiplier, priceless.

Made a lot of flash bstards running mid range Trek and Giant alu framed showpieces like very pointless and irrelevent when they mocked my steel framed ‘tank’ and i proved it was anything but a heavy waste of space. If anything, and with a doubly big base budget i could have got better off the shelf, but given 50% of that would have been buying into a quality brand name people recognised, it’s low recognition (in the UK) brand actually probably helped a bit making it less theft attractive, and trying to quietly get it into the back of a van would have (post full modded) needed a ramp as it was bloody heavy to lift as you can imagine.

It was also a test bed for a very advanced anti-theft system i designed where if you didn’t disarm it (remotely, on 430.005 Mhz using an uncommon RF mode and key exchange) all the exposed metal would have given a thief a nasty EHT shock.

So yeah, it was a brilliant bicycle and on no level do i regret owning one. If i had a looking back regret, it would be they were so uncommon that it was hard to recommend them to anyone at the time as there were few Univega sources to buy from - which was a shame.

Probably, today if my legs and general health weren’t shot to pieces, i’d probably use a dual motor S600 E-bicycle as a modern equiv to turn into a mobile field radio bike. But things have come a long way, but i doubt the quality would be as high.
 
As a follow-up - all told, in terms of added weight the frame handled easily without any indications of warping or visible weld issues, it typically carried :-

1 rider approximating 110 lbs wearing a 65 litre rucksack containing the equivalent weight of encyclopaedia hardbacks making up 98% of the 65 litre capacity - consisting of one li-ion battery pack with an energy density rating equiv to a 45AH 12v SLA, and a secondary Li-Po pack equal in capacity with a lower discharge current rating.

Added weight directly attached to frame - a duplicate of the li-ion carried in rucksack as main common lighting and radio power source, 1 Alinco VHF/UHF transceiver (about 10lbs), Bearcat mobile scanner (about 5lbs), about 10lbs incorporating the lighting rig. Adding in the extreme weatherproofing to protect electrical connections and weather resistant waterproof connectors (various surplus mil-spec types) probably adding 1/2-1lb, the offset bent alu masts carrying antennas probably added 5 lbs, rack and top box probably about 15lbs with typical bike and electrical/electronics.

Three D-locks, two short and one full sized motorcycle sized - weight unknown, but painfully heavy if dropped on toes…

To close the bike story - when i traded it in, with fittings still attached (clearly not with radio equipment), i put a couple of non-functional ex-PMR mobile transceivers i colour matched to the military camo paintwork - where the store used it as a shop window display example and by strange irony it ended up earning the shop a healthy sale when another radio user realised it was virtually a ready to run mobile radio station - all the new owner had to do was replace the dummy radios.

I paid about £250 for it new, got a healthy trade in against its replacement through same outlet, after 3 years as a shop window decoration, it sold on at £500 to the new owner, and out of fairness - the next visit i made earned me £50 cash or £100 in store credit, i accepted the credit as it was a generous act on the proprieter’s sense of fair play that i respected. Ironically i never used the credit, as i had migrated to an pure race enduro motorcycle i modded to be road legal and that became my radio bike/commuter transport.

But as mentioned in previous post, great value & hard wearing was the Univega and literally you couldn’t put a value on experience, value of being used and abused way beyond it’s designed usage.

I won’t guarantee a used example with god knows what history of abuse will be as robust a starting point, but i’d say that a used example with good condition mechanics and no visible frame/weld damage would still make a good candidate for moderate load carrying at least.
 

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