Trying to understand shimano range

There were also stuff I recall from the 80s that I think were something like exage trail, exage mountain etc. I'm sure the archives will tell you more, but I think there is a mombat timeline of all the shimano stuff so maybe worth googling that?
 
Prior to 1989 I'm not sure what was available below Deore and Deore XT.

'89 went :- Tourney, Exage Country, Exage Trail, Exage Mountain, Mountain LX, Deore, Deore XT.

'90 went :- Tourney, 200GS, 300LX, 400LX, 500LX, Deore LX, Deore DX, Deore XT.

'91 went :- Tourney, 100GS, 200GS, 300LX, 400LX, 500LX, Deore LX, Deore DX, Deore XT.

'92 went :- Tourney, 70GS, 100GS, 200GS, 300LX, 400LX, 500LX, Deore LX, Deore DX, Deore XT, XTR.

'93 went :- Tourney, Altus C20, Altus C10, Altus A20, Altus A10, Exage LT, Exage ES, Deore LX, Deore DX, Deore XT, XTR.
(This was the last year Shimano officially listed thumbshifters).

'94 went :- Tourney, Atus C50, Alivio, STX, STX SE, Deore LX, Deore XT, XTR.

'95 went :- Tourney, Altus C90, Acera X, Alivio, STX, STX RC, Deore LX, Deore XT, XTR.

'96-'98 went :- Tourney, Altus C90, Acera X, Alivio, STX, STX RC, Deore LX, Deore XT, XTR.

'99 onwards :- Tourney, Altus, Acera, Alivio, Deore, Deore LX, Deore XT, XTR.
Or something like that. Modern Saint is between XTR and XT, Hone between XT and LX. SLX replaced Deore LX.

Hope this helps.
 
number wise:
This isn't all inclusive but gives you an idea of the range.

M55x thru M57x = LX
M70x thru M77x = XT
M90x thru M97x = XTR
 
Some things to note:

any rear mech from around 1986 onwards will work with 9spd shifters and chain

you can mix and match just about whatever you like from 1986 onwards but watch the front mechs - there is no rhyme or reason to how these buggers work with indexing.

The Letter 'N' is wearing off my keyboard....
 
sorry this is quite a late post..

i have an alivio m430 rear mech on my hard tail and it shifts perfectly well.

fair enough its going on for 100g heavier than the "better stuff" but is there really that much difference in performance?

bear in mind i paid 12.50 for it and when it wears out i'm just going to replace it with a new one (probably something a bit shinier/ more gimmicky mind).
 
Nigel777":2cal1kwv said:
sorry this is quite a late post..

i have an alivio m430 rear mech on my hard tail and it shifts perfectly well.

fair enough its going on for 100g heavier than the "better stuff" but is there really that much difference in performance?

bear in mind i paid 12.50 for it and when it wears out i'm just going to replace it with a new one (probably something a bit shinier/ more gimmicky mind).

Nothing wrong with it if you are happy fella. The higher end stuff is where the newer technologies start to filter down to the customer and eventually what an XTR rear mech can do now an LX will in the coming seasons all be it a little heavier and not as shiny. As most of the developements are tested by team riders along with lots of R and D by companies who make them its in everyones best interest that the higher end stuff does keep improving however my DX equipped machines shift just as well as the XT and XTR infact sometimes I wish my 2009 XT shod bike had thumbies!!
I suppose some people build bikes also to replicate what thier idols raced BITD so only the highest grade or most similar/same components will do for that build by that person.
 
I was always told that the further up the range you got the more lightweight it was. IE XTR is the lightest but not that strong.

Mate of mine reckons a fat bloke like me would break XTR stuff in 5 mins.
Is this right, I thought XT was a better compromise between lightness and
toughness.
 
It does get lighter but only to a point especially with the retro stuff, m900 XTR crank arms are about the same weight as XT if memory serves me so wouldn't have thought that it would be weaker given its meant to be the best therefore withstand more abuse as well as work better and be lighter. newer comparisons might be diff as the XTR stuff is LOTS more money than even the XT.
 
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