The final straw

Having a 20 year old son and a14 year old daughter space is at a premium in our house so keeping the bike in the house was never an option for me.A local PCSO visited this evening and said he'd done a door to door investigation and a neighbour two doors away had seen 3 youths around 14 yrs old exiting the ten foot around the time of the theft,one was walking,one riding a bicycle and the other pushing a bike,I'd put money on the one being pushed as my Hahanna, as I reckon I'm the only one around here that could get a leg over it,they were all wearing the obligatory hoodie so no real indentification.Both times I've been robbed have been on a weekend ( saturday first time,sunday this) and at the same time of approx 3 to 5pm in the afternoon,the PCSO puts this down to the fact that a primary school backs onto the ten foot behind my house and the thieves are afraid of being spotted by someone in the school grounds during the week,and afternoon as opposed to night because most people have security lighting that lights up the ten foot before you get anywhere near the garages.Spudly the bikes were taken from the Sutton/East Hull area around Malet Lambert school.The officer also gave me two alarms that push out 140db to attach to the doors, I already have one on the main door but will be doubling that up now,putting the other one on the side door.I have alredy registered the bikes on the immobolise website, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 5948,d.ZGU which is used by the police to keep local shops,i.e second hand dealers,cash convertors etc informed of any stolen items,but I'll put them on the ones suggested by FluffyChicken as well,the more the merrier i suppose.I've decided to press the Explosif into commuting duties that way it will be with me at work during the day.
 
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Grim mate. I'm sure a lot of us have had bikes nicked. Had my dream motorbike nicked 28 years back - hellish. But don't give up. Squeeze the Explosif into the house somehow - wheels off and bars at 90 degrees if necessary - or keep it at a mates place. Keep the faith - folks are good hearted the world over and only a very few knob-ends try and spoil things.
 
KenG,

It sounds to me like you have all the info you need to be able to set a trap to catch the thieves, i.e., typical time of the day that it occurs and the day of the week that it typically occurs. You could probably even buy an inexpensive bike (BSO) to use as bait. I'm surprised that the thieves struck a 2nd time to take another bike, which makes me think that they're stupid enough to try a 3rd time.

Perhaps your neighbors would be concerned enough to participate in capturing the thieves, or perhaps a nice quiet Retrobike party with some RB members that are local to you would make for a good solution. They could arrive early on a Saturday or Sunday (Noon or 1 PM?) and in groups so that there aren't a noticeable amount of cars on your street, and everyone could have a nice quiet afternoon dinner inside, away from the windows (or with curtains drawn) so that the thieves don't know that so many people are home, and, assuming you mount a covert camera in the shed, you could have a large monitor available for all inside to see if anyone takes the "bait". Just be sure to take the thieves down fast and call the authorities right away. I'd even video the entire capture event if I were you, both for proof of the crime as well as proof against any claims of violence on your part. Even if nothing happens, it might be a good opportunity to get to know any RBers that live near you; just a social event with food, drink, and like-minded bike-loving individuals.

I know it sounds like a lot of effort, but I'd certainly volunteer to be part of the "posse" if there were enough participants (Obviously you'd want to be sure that your posse outnumbers the thieves, which is apparently a group of 3, so that there's little danger of you or anyone in the posse getting seriously injured), and of course if I lived in the UK and within a reasonable distance from you.

I know you're probably thinking that it's easy for me to say that when I live on the other side of the planet from you, but my perception of the UK (and, to all, please pardon my ignorance if I'm wrong) is that firearms are quite rare on your side of the pond, and therefore I'd think that a large contingent of fully grown men could most probably capture at least one of a group of 3 teenagers and turn him over to the authorities.

It's a different situation entirely in the US, both for thieves and homeowners because you never know who has a gun. I live in a rural area where nobody dares burglarizing a house unless they thought absolutely no-one was home because they might get shot, and I wouldn't dare approach a group of teenagers in the US, even as part of a large posse, for the same reason. In a land where firearms are rare, however, I'd think there would be safety in numbers, although I'd have a billy club handy just in case I'd need it to defend myself.

You obviously need to think that there's a possibility that there may be repercussions if you escalate the situation, and of course you'd never want to put your family in danger, but sadly I suspect that the current situation will continue until the thieves are captured.

One more thought: Because she's apparently the same approximate age as the thieving scum, I wonder if your daughter might actually know any of them, perhaps from school? She may be a valuable source of information should you decide to launch your own covert investigation of some possible suspects. She may not know them personally, but could potentially give you a list of suspects, especially if she's ever noticed a group of 3 individuals that habitually congregated and who seemed to be bicycle-oriented. If it were me, I'd think it would be great to discover my property in the possession of a couple of prime suspects because then at least I'd know exactly who I was dealing with and could then direct my attention specifically to those individuals, as opposed to trying to defend myself against the unknown.

I wish there was more I could do for you than just dispense advice. If it helps, I'd be happy to pay for the beer if you do host such a party of RBers, just so long as everyone toasts me with the first drink and speaks fondly of me (after that, you can say whatever you want about me :lol: ). That said, I think I'll be in deep financial trouble if more than a couple dozen beer-drinking RBers show up at the party :shock: :lol:, so perhaps I should set a cap of $100 towards beer. Just post pics of the event here and I'll gladly "Paypal Gift" you.

Best of luck to you, and please keep us posted if your bikes turn up; I think we'd all love to hear a happy ending to this story.

Cheers,
Frank
 
That's great. a party to capture the thief! I know america seems like we all have guns but we don't and thieves know that law abiding folks don't really want to kill people. Sooo....we have hundreds if not thousands of bikes stolen every year in my city alone. It's an epidemic and the city is trying to get a localized bike registration going with serial numbers and I'm just too embarrassed to go in and register my dozen and a half bikes.... :oops:

Anyhow, that's great everybody. Most importantly, keep an eye out on where people go to fence stolen bikes. For us, it's the local flea market and craigslist.
 
incorrigible, theres so many good people on this site it does make me feel a hell of a lot better knowing that theres other riders have the same worries as me,I know there are more good people on this planet than bad but these last two incidents are the first issues I've ever had,a good record over my 53 years on this earth i reckon,but it does make me realise you can never get complacent, you've given sound advice and I'll definately toast you the next time I have a drink,in fact I'll toast the whole of Retrobike at the same time as I reckon without the comforting words of encouragement from members on here this would have been a lot harder to bear.
 
Pretty much every day I read and learn of instances such as yours KenG. However, your loss has stuck a chord within me more than any of them and I feel for you. To have owned and cherished such a lovely bike for so many years, to have it taken, heart wrenching. A truly beautiful bike and dare I say, friend.

Like you and so many others, I too have experienced the theft of my pride and joy and similarly, knowing that it was more than likely being stripped and sold for a few quid here and there made me feel sick. I endeavour to reconcile myself with the keen blade of universal karma towards those who didn't even covet what I had, they just took what they wanted for whatever reasons they had.

My sincere condolences, I trust and hope that you recover and deal with the loss in a way that enables you to continue enjoying your passion, for that would be most tragic if not.
 
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