Suntour Symmetric

ZG862

Retro Guru
Hi all.

I'm fitting Suntour Symmetric levers to a frame that originally had outer cabled-guided gear wires under the bottom bracket shell. The plan is to use them with a "endless band" type Cyclone 2 front mech.
There are 2 problems:
1) If I attempt to take the gear cables to the brazed on stop on the down tube, they inevitably rub the paintwork, because the cables at the levers are in about the "ten to two" position, whereas the stops are at about "twenty to four".
2) The band on front mech has no outer cable stop (they actually supplied a removable stop with the clamped version), the expectation being that the mech would be operated by bare cable. It would work just fine with an under shell plastic guide.

I have a faint recollection that Suntour's expectation at the time was that cables would be routed OVER the bottom bracket shell but I can only seem to find clunky bolt-on chromed bracket things that look quite out of place against the whole 80's sleek aero look I'm going for. This also creates a problem at the other end of the chain stay for the rear mech; There's a brazed on stop for it on the underside that would have to be replaced by an ugly bolt-on stop here too.

But Suntour were quite the smart innovators, right? How did they expect this setup to work? My web searches have returned no pictures of a Symmetric installation other than close-ups of the levers.
I do need a little work done on this frame, so I could have all the old stops cut off and re-positioned I suppose. Is this my only option?

Cheers,
Z
PS/ Why did they call it "symmetric" anyway? The whole idea was that the integral cam made it asymmetric...
 
Hi Rod - and thanks!

In trying to answer my own question, I found this:https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vint ... -pics.html that others may find useful and this: http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Sun ... age_4.html which shows the LD-2300 model I have (with a better picture than my phone could manage). There's also an exploded diagram in the 1983 small parts catalogue that will help anyone struggling to remember the washer positions on reassembly.

However, most useful was this: http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Sun ... ge_24.html which shows a bolt-on part called a "WL-120" and some braze on guides ("WL-550" and "WL-500") which were presumably what the Suntour boffins had in mind.

Anyone with a NOS WL-120 in need of a new home can of course apply here and I'll do my best to take it off your hands along with those hens' teeth you've been trying to get rid of. :D
 
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