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greenstiles":4a25lqoj said:
Sorry you don't like my opinions guys. I have had support behind the scenes who agree with , but sadly are cautious about coming on here for a bun fight or being baited.

As for using the internet term 'troll' for someone who hasn't aimed any personal insults like some remarks made to me at 1st have been, i find that a very blunt tactic.

I have given my honest opinions and tried to learn some thing along the way.

I have even had a bit of self doubt at times, but thanks to the people who have posted up their bad experiences with SW and a couple of people who have expressed support behind the scenes, I know i am not alone with such opinions.

I only reason i used the mechanics analogy was to prove how silly it was to compare what we were talking about to non relevant professions.

I am happy in my opinions and that is what they are. No I am not trying to cause trouble either, so you can stop that one please.


I will bow out now finally as I just feel that from this point i am going to be baited and made out to not have the right to expess myself.


Thanks for everyones input. :D

The reasons why people would report negative experiences , given the nature of the task has been clearly explained to you,
The point made that SW can not be flaky or have demons has also been made and you have conveniently ignored this, you have been asked for the evidence from your study of psychology to support this postition yet can not provide any.
when you observed SWs avoiding making a snap surface assessment of the facts or evidence in a case study, you interpret this as them embellishing the information, and not making as assessment based on teaching, training, theory, research and extensive practice experience.
If people have contacted you "behind the scenes" social stigma and the nature of the task again explains why they do not post here.
When you see SWs discussing and deciding on the best way to proceed given the tangle of legislation, theory research, policy ,process etc you see this as confusion (we are not confused by this).
you make a point about accountability, the examples here both provide evidence that they were offered the right to complain and have the situation investigated. I have provided others factual information to prove that no profession is held as accountable as SW, by itself and the media and society and the government, yet it exists within a domain where there is no such thing as a black and white, yes no, right or wrong type decision, just shades of grey and damned if you do damned if you dont.

To my mind you have not been able to make one single valid point or substantiate it.

you have also decided to completely misconstrue a person who was actually supportive to a degree of your position and more eloquantly able to discuss,substantiate and argue that postition, and bizarrely persist in doing so, which shows how entrenched your mentality leaves you. There is no piont in begining a discussion if your mind is closed and you are unprepared to have your opinion altered, even when your opinion has been based on what you read in the sun and a bloke in the pub said so type thing.

you are right on the need at this point to disgracefully bow out and run away though.
 
Oh wait, hold on Greenstiles.

I have to accept i have been completely wrong all along.

The points you have made have all been substantiated and proven without a doubt by your best friend, none other than Scott Walden, Marin Man, Manitou Man or whatever name he is frequenting retrobike under these days,. As we all know Scott is the the number one despiser of disabled people, racist bigot and sun reader extrordinairre.

Scott has shared his considered opinion in a private email of such beauty i just had to share

"I have been reading the thread about social workers with interest charlie,and can say that you a wanker of the first order,you are slagging people off and calling them names etc because they dont agree with you,really a structured debate you are holding isnt it.

You make yourself look a twat hiding behind your keyboard,I worked on call for social services myself for many years and can say that the majority of the social workers I worked with were wankers but never so much as you are...lol..lol

I would like to hear alot of your opinions to my face,or greenstiles face,think you would not be so mouthy then...lol"

Oh Scott I will be at Mountain Mayhem this year, see you then :wink:
 
This is nothing to do with our site and only to do with an email from Scott and a thread on here.
Leave us out of it.
 
charlie, I don't know a Scott to my knowlege, and any previous disagreements youv'e had with other people have nothing to do with me. Absolutly nothing.

Not running away,and not disgraced one bit. Just trying to walk away calmly as we cannot agree, that's all.

If anything your last 2 comments have just confirmed something in my mind at least. Not what i'd call
professional in any way.

But if you wish to say such things when i said i wanted to bow out be my guest but please have the decency not to hurl abuse after i've left the room.Your just being offensive towards me now. Save that behavior for off-forum.
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greenstiles":371a6uj3 said:
charlie, I don't know a Scott to my knowlege, and any previous disagreements youv'e had with other people have nothing to do with me. Absolutly nothing.

Not running away,and not disgraced one bit. Just trying to walk away calmly as we cannot agree, that's all.

If anything your last 2 comments have just confirmed something in my mind at least. Not what i'd call
professional in any way.

But if you wish to say such things when i said i wanted to bow out be my guest but please have the decency not to hurl abuse after i've left the room.
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there has been no abuse at all, unless you count providing a brief synopsis of how wrong you are and how you had your botty spanked during this debate constitutes abuse in your mind, and im not at work you , you, you "smelly banana poo", ( that insult was selected by my 5 year old, and in his mind that is top drawer abuse)
 
People warned me not to get into 'a discussion' with you ! boy I should have listened........not gonna make this mistake again.

I've gone from disagreeing with you to partially repecting you..for a few seconds.

to ' wow ' note to self, avoid at all cost in future.' Are you sure you are a social worker ? After all you could be anyone for all i know.

please leave me alone now, your getting a bit frightening........really. Just going to check the locks on my windows. :roll:

You win the imaginary prize.........it's all yours....take it.
 
greenstiles":1jiwbln4 said:
People warned me not to get into 'a discussion' with you ! boy I should have listened........not gonna make this mistake again.

I've gone from disagreeing with you to partially repecting you..for a few seconds.

to ' wow ' note to self, avoid at all cost in future.' Are you sure you are a social worker ? After all you could be anyone for all i know.

please leave me alone now, your getting a bit frightening........really. Just going to check the locks on my windows. :roll:

You win the imaginary prize.........it's all yours....take it.

you know Greenstiles im proud to say i have only had one disagreement on here , im even prouder of who that disagreement was , by proxy, with. In fact it could only have been that person you dont know, lol. I would not even consider this a disagreement, just you getting your pants pulled down and thoroughly spanked for an ill informed and contentious opinion that you decided to start a thread on here for.

I know i win the prize, referee called it a no contest some time back. :P
 
Bullyiing and intimidtion may work on your clients, but not on me. But keep going your hanging yourself here buddy !

I think everyones getting a bit bored now..........Mods feel free to step in at any time,Im not giving in to this kind of person ever, on a forum or in real life. suprised this hasn't bee n locked earlier if only for the hidden threats you made about meeting face to face.
 
lol, there have been no threats other than those recieved from your friend,

please check the quotation marks :wink:

you have delusions of grandeur if you think anyone other than me and you has been interested in this thread for some time .
giving in,lol, so your a victim now, Oh please mods let me say what ever i want about anyone and when i get pulled up on it ,please come and save me.now i know your a troll but appealing to the mods to let you have the last word is going a bit far
 
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