So what do you think about this 3iAtlas comet behaving weirdly in our Solar System?

[grantoury]

Ha! That makes me sound like a right old negative s*d . Which couldn't be further from reality..

Sorry, sounded a bit sharp. This wasn't meant as a character judgment in any way.

 

[PhillB]

Sorry, sounded a bit sharp. This wasn't meant as a character judgment in any way.

No worries, It stung a little as I believe I am someone who always tries to be constructive ...but that's good, as I made me question my assumption!!! Question everything!!

 

[PhillB]

Which would imply that aliens are so bad at flying (or their ships are so dreadfully unreliable) that it's amazing they get here at all!
Alternatively, if they have the same levels of accidents as civil aviation then there are millions of them.

Neither stacks up really in my mind.

However, UFO sightings in the US have been remarkably similar to experimental aircraft development. In the 1950s they were of cigar shaped objects (Flying Wing YB-49 etc). By the 1970s, UFO reports shifted to triangular craft (F-117 Stealth fighter). Clearly the witnesses were correct, but what they saw was definitely terrestrial!

Yes!

Some of today's reports are also remarkably similar to the 'Nuremberg celestial phenomena' of 1561, a similar event in Basel in 1566, Airship flaps in the 1800's, as well as much older Sanskrit 'stories' in the Vedas of Vimana.

It's intriguing to consider whether these are all the same phenomena or variations of it - interpreted in the conceptual frame of the time.

 

[hamster]

Interestingly it's only recently that scientists have been able to demonstrate that bubbles rising in ponds can charge up and produce micro-sparks, leading to ignition of marsh gas. This phenomenon has been widely reported for centuries as Will O' the Wisps, but at last has been fully explained.

 

[Tootyred]

There's lots of space in space....some of it has stuff in it. Some of that stuff moves about. Once in a big while its bound to get close to other stuff.

Its hardly mysterious.

Plus seeing as we are basically cosmic "shut ins" im not suprised we are suprised when we see something....we never go out.

Science hates new stuff that doesn't follow their rules...it just reminds them of the total waste of time most of their endeavours are....as frankly less than 1% will be held true or correct or relevant in 200 years time!

 

[doctor-bond]

I’m going to stick up for science: it’s very basis is to prove itself wrong, and things like the James Webb telescope and all the thinking that goes into puzzling out the stuff it sees is pretty amazing.

On aliens - try this one: the universe is c 13billion years old. To make us took c. 4 billion years of planet shaping and evolution; the stuff in that planet that enables us to use technology to type on the interwebs about aliens (gold, etc) needs really rare events like colliding neutron stars (stars that have already formed & got old before colliding). That initself takes billions of years.

It’s not that far fetched that we are among the first intelligent life to emerge ….

 

[Takingabreak]

Also +1 for science - I mean, where would we be without even spoke tension?

 

[bikeworkshop]

I’m going to stick up for science: it’s very basis is to prove itself wrong, and things like the James Webb telescope and all the thinking that goes into puzzling out the stuff it sees is pretty amazing.

On aliens - try this one: the universe is c 13billion years old. To make us took c. 4 billion years of planet shaping and evolution; the stuff in that planet that enables us to use technology to type on the interwebs about aliens (gold, etc) needs really rare events like colliding neutron stars (stars that have already formed & got old before colliding). That initself takes billions of years.

It’s not that far fetched that we are among the first intelligent life to emerge ….

Mind you, how many billions, trillions of suns are out there?
Give me the Fermi Paradox any day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

 

[LondonClassic]

However, UFO sightings in the US have been remarkably similar to experimental aircraft development. In the 1950s they were of cigar shaped objects (Flying Wing YB-49 etc). By the 1970s, UFO reports shifted to triangular craft (F-117 Stealth fighter). Clearly the witnesses were correct, but what they saw was definitely terrestrial in origin!

It's certainly the official line in debunking most sightings. Even by USAF blue book metrics, it still leaves 5% of all sighting with no explanation. And then theres the sightings from history, such as the Pilgrim fathers recording transmedium objects at sea many moons ago.

 

[LondonClassic]

Mind you, how many billions, trillions of suns are out there?
Give me the Fermi Paradox any day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

The criticism of the Fermi paradox is his sample data is extrodinarily little and in cosmic terms he's not listening for very long. If you turn on an analogue radio between stations, listen for 5 and just get static, can you conclude radio stations do not exist?