So what do you think about this 3iAtlas comet behaving weirdly in our Solar System?

[PhillB]

If it's aliens then I predict the swift invention, followed closely by a worldwide shortage, of the lockable butt plug.

Time to buy shares in buttplug start-ups

 

[LondonClassic]

There are so many questons to be raised, why has it all remained secret when he speaks of footballfield sized crafts, why does this only occur in the US, why would it be kept a secret when we live in a society that thrives on the free exchange of ideas and the universe is kind of an open book (even without psychotropics), and why is all of his info third hand and is he unable to freely share proof? There is too much to discredit these claims to take them seriously.

Its implied that the 'proof' is shared in the SCIF - the non public side of the congressional hearings. Each time a pointed question comes at these guys they fall back to 'I am only able to share that in a SCIF' - so they are not permitted to share the good stuff in a public hearing as they'd be imprisoned. If you look into Grusch and Elizondo, some of the things they are able to talk about are quite wild. Elizondo I am more skeptical of as he seems to be a bit of a showboater who has made some glaring errors on the lecture circuit.

It seems not to be contained to the US - more that the US is the only country to formally investigate the phenomenon - and now these hearings. *Allegedly* the first UFO recovery is the Magenta crash from Italy in the early 1930s...Grusch talks about it.

As for keeping a secret....there was a comment by Grusch that 'all the information the US has on UFOS has been leaked to the public domain, as well as a ton of disinformation.' There seems to be no lack of 'secrets' on the internet, as well as a load of crap and little verification of any of it.

 

[PhillB]

I'm not sure about all this 'disclosure' to be honest. In a world where practically everything were are told is either a lie or, being charitable, a gross oversimplification of the truth. My question would be 'Why are you telling us, and why are you telling us now?'

I have an open mind on it all, but a healthy (I believe) skepticism of anything I am told.

Watch the lies... I mean skies... I guess

 

[LondonClassic]

Exactly....which is why I'm doubting we'd get the full skinny on 3iAtlas. And if there was some revelation we'd either not care or not believe it, or more likely both of those states.

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[PhillB]

I would tend to agree. One question it seems no-one has asked about 3I/Atlas is, does it even exist? I mean I haven't seen it, have you? - all we are shown are animated gifs of a blob and told it is some weird comet or some giant alien SUV- no-one has questioned that bit.

I've said this to a few people I know and they've kinda laughed and said' why would they lie about it?'.... I'm like ' Have you learned nothing over the last 5 years???' anyway I have to chew it back as people look at you as if you are the odd one .

 

[grantoury]

A picture from the International Gemini Observatory should hold some truth?

 

[PhillB]

A picture from the International Gemini Observatory should hold some truth?

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I'd like to think so. But we live in a post-truth society so

I should say that my suspicion is that is indeed there, behind the sun, at the time of writing this, but I have to entertain the small probability that it isn't

Question everything

 

[grantoury]

post-truth society

As a rule, it has always been a good starting point to question everything, but this is more like discredit everything, which is not constructive to put it mildly.

 

[PhillB]

As a rule, it has always been a good starting point to question everything, but this is more like discredit everything, which is not constructive to put it mildly.

Ha! That makes me sound like a right old negative s*d . Which couldn't be further from reality..

 

[hamster]

If..it seems there are more than one whitsleblower from inside the US intelligence community who are saying 'there is a UAP/UFO crash retrieval project, its been going for years, we have recovered more than ten objects/vehicles/remains of vehicles.'

Which would imply that aliens are so bad at flying (or their ships are so dreadfully unreliable) that it's amazing they get here at all!
Alternatively, if they have the same levels of accidents as civil aviation then there are millions of them.

Neither stacks up really in my mind.

However, UFO sightings in the US have been remarkably similar to experimental aircraft development. In the 1950s they were of cigar shaped objects (Flying Wing YB-49 etc). By the 1970s, UFO reports shifted to triangular craft (F-117 Stealth fighter). Clearly the witnesses were correct, but what they saw was definitely terrestrial in origin!