Sir Clive tries again

velomaniac":2gy2iacs said:
ABikes not much more than a gimmick.
If you hit anything not much bigger than a grain of sand it would be similar to riding a 20-26" wheel into a breezeblock. In fact the teeth you'd knock out from face planting would be the breezeblock for the next ABike along :lol:
The ABike was another great idea that was poorly implemented. The Strida is a much better implementation of the same idea....

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tintin40":2gy2iacs said:
10 mile range :shock: that is a joke :?
As for the A bike. The clue is in the name 'A'rse bike. Wouldn't be seen dead on it.
He must get up every morning and think what pointless & stupid idea can i sell today. The computers he sold i thought back then were rubbish. Some body has to be first :roll:
Ummm, Tintin....



....would you like a cup of tea? :lol:

pigman":2gy2iacs said:
how do you balance the darn thing when at a standstill?
I might be wrong pigman, but if you look at the shadow under the X-1 there seems to be a hole in the floor...

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Nowhere does it say it has a 10-mile range. It says it'll do 10 miles for 10p, but that's not saying what the range is.

As for balancing, putting your feet through the big hole in the floor would look like the best bet :)
 
MikeD":1kc1x0ez said:
As for balancing, putting your feet through the big hole in the floor would look like the best bet :)

It worked perfectly for the Ant-Hill Mob: :roll:
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Sinclair is a delusional gimp who should no longer be allowed to play with Etch-A-Sketch. Or investors' money.
 
Good for Clive Sinclair, he 's thinking better the bloody car companies who don't think and still offer us the wrong type of vehicle for the now and the future.

For example, how many single people drive arounfd in cars designed to seat four or five, what about the width of those things and the space they take up on our narrow and often congested roads, every car takes a big rectangle of space even a small car, thats width not needed. Car drivers hate bikers motorcyclists and pedal cyclists why? Surely because whilst cars are stiuck in congestion which might be ten twenty cars containing a lot of people or just the minimum, the driver, it's ridiculous.

For example the road into my city daily sees congestion and because of the few roads going in it often becomes gridlocked, no one moving except bikers and pedestrians. One day out of interest walking past all those stuck cars I counted them and came up with 19 vehicles that were causing the problem and of those 19 only a bus had more than one person in it, so in effect aside from the public transport 18 people were stuffing up the roads for everyone else. Thats 18 people out of how many thousands, millions that use the roads. Congestion is caused by the wrong type of vehicle being offered.

But what is the option, a pedal cycle or a motor cycle and the weather and vulnerability that comes with it, do bikers cause congestion normally, nope they don't, do bikers crash into other bikers, similarly so it's the cars that are the problem. Now granted a family car transporting a family is fit for purpose, but a car with many seats transporting one person is ludicrous, pathetic even and a cause for our congestion problems and with that adding to the resource consumption and pollution.

But why is four wheels needed for a vehicle, a cart from the past, what is wrong with a compromise between bike and car, the three wheeler and of a design that offers a passenger/ load seat behind the driver, the tandem design and with tandem, a much narrower track and less space taken up on the road. What to power these vehicles with, well a lighter more aerodynamic structure requires less power, so electric is a possibility as is a hybrid engine, fuel/electric, but of a much smaller and enviromentally sound design. Pollution we will always have pollution whilst there is us, it is a biproduct of us and our industry, so there is no escaping that, but we can minimise it by using engines fit for purpose, the purpose of propelling a lightweight vehicle designed and built for minimal human transport

The 1950s Heinkel and Messerschmidt had an idea ;

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But at least someone is thinking in the right direction, for me as personal motorised transport, this is perfect, it ticks all the right boxes but one, cost, it is too expensive and so takes status as a toy for the wealthy ;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPOkeJCiw9A

This is where I believe Sinclair should be looking, but at least he's thinking whereas the car companies are not, for they keep saddling us with crap from the past.

Did you know 40% of a normal vehicles power is taken up just overcoming the aerodynamic drag, cars are in effect pushing an envelope of air in front of them, that tome is a complete waste socars have not really improved that much over the last century or so of transport. Time to think differently.
 
The problem is that S'Clive seems to think that everyone wants to ride a small bike/car thing. The last 30 years of trying it to massive indifference from the world should really be telling him something.
 
silverclaws":1fbppcl8 said:
Good for Clive Sinclair, he 's thinking better the bloody car companies who don't think and still offer us the wrong type of vehicle for the now and the future.

For example, how many single people drive arounfd in cars designed to seat four or five, what about the width of those things and the space they take up on our narrow and often congested roads...

...Time to think differently.

I agree with everything that you say on congestion, single-occupancy cars etc etc.

But Sinclair's solutions (to everything) are crap and ill-conceived, IMO.

There are already open recumbents and faired-in velo-mobiles that do a much better job than that bubble thing he's proposing. And they're actually designed by people who KNOW about those things - rather than just a self-appointed "designer" who might have been working on kitchens or kids toys last week.

Yet they remain a tiny minority, even among cyclists (I know of 1 velomobile locally & probably see about 1 recumbent per day among thousands of commuter cyclists).

The "Smart" car is still niche. BUT they've achieved much greater market share than anything Sinclair is proposing. Because they actually do SOME things well. Not as well as a bike IMO, but we agree that progress and attitude change is painfully slow - partly due to false "aspirations" pushed strongly by the auto industry.

Yes, we need to think outside the box.
But Sinclair simply seems to produce: an uglier, less efficient, plastic box. Always has.

Give the guy the most efficient machine in history (a human on a bike) and just look what he does to "improve" it :roll:
...what a great designer. :roll:
 
Silverclaws has absolutely hit the nail on the head.

The 'side-by-side' seating layout can be traced back to this....

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...which then became the 'horseless carriage'...

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The Carver One was a fantastic attempt to break the mould...

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...before the company went bust... :(
 
silverclaws":273jyx9c said:
For example the road into my city daily sees congestion and because of the few roads going in it often becomes gridlocked, no one moving except bikers and pedestrians. One day out of interest walking past all those stuck cars I counted them and came up with 19 vehicles that were causing the problem and of those 19 only a bus had more than one person in it, so in effect aside from the public transport 18 people were stuffing up the roads for everyone else. Thats 18 people out of how many thousands, millions that use the roads. Congestion is caused by the wrong type of vehicle being offered.

shame nobody's doing anything about it :wink:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11301831
 
Say what you like about sir Clive, but he has always come up with new ideas, for which I salute him. The reason it's crap is because it's the first of its kind.

Will it catch on? No chance. But at least he's trying.

Incidentally, I am doing a degree in Computer Science, and two of the lecturers began to program on ZX81s. So there.
 
orange71":2ovj2gvk said:
silverclaws":2ovj2gvk said:
For example the road into my city daily sees congestion and because of the few roads going in it often becomes gridlocked, no one moving except bikers and pedestrians. One day out of interest walking past all those stuck cars I counted them and came up with 19 vehicles that were causing the problem and of those 19 only a bus had more than one person in it, so in effect aside from the public transport 18 people were stuffing up the roads for everyone else. Thats 18 people out of how many thousands, millions that use the roads. Congestion is caused by the wrong type of vehicle being offered.

shame nobody's doing anything about it :wink:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11301831

Excellent, but will it be £6k when it is ready, and will it be allowed as established auto industry has fingers everywhere, one wonders if the Carver company died for that very same reason, no interest from funding bodies due to interests elsewhere.

If it was, it would not be the first time, for how many revolutionary products have been bought out by the auto industry and sunk forever, for the auto industry must keep it's market dominance against all that challenge. It is why we are still driving the horseless carriage and in some of these carriages suspension that was on horse drawn carts, anyone still got leaf springs of some sort ? In fact, look at a modern car, how different is it to the horseless carriage ?
 

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