Shimano Deore LX/XT chainset problem!

eBay_special":1jz0mmf3 said:
Curiously, I've just had a reply from chainreaction, suggesting a replacement chainset because of the expense of going the Middleburn spider/rings route BUT no mention of a ring that fits directly to the LX/XT 4-arm carrier itself! Strange.
Just to be clear Anthony, you're suggesting you've fitted the Middleburn ring to the middle position of your LX chainset and you've done it by mounting that ring directly to the existing LX spider.......and by purchasing the ring on that second link, I will achieve the same as you?
Yes and yes. The middle ring in the photo is a Middleburn.

eBay_special":1jz0mmf3 said:
Apologies if this is a little basic.

regards and thanks,
Jules
Not at all, and it isn't all that strange. The guy in my LBS would say the same - he thinks any part older than two years should just be thrown away and replaced with the latest model. When I took a perfectly good pair of the classic 96 Judy SLs for a service, he advised me not to bother, as they were only fit for a skip. So I sent them to Tim Flooks instead and they're still going strong.

With chainrings, it's certainly true that replacing all three rings (assuming you can) costs more than a new chainset, so there is an argument that replacing them one at a time is a false economy. But (a) you might think the Kilauea would look wrong with a modern chainset, and (b) modern chainsets are incompatible with square-taper bbs, so you'd need a new bb as well.

If the other two rings are almost shot as well, then their argument would be stronger, but in view of Drapoon's kind offer you ought to be able to keep going with a period-correct chainset for a long while to come. Personally I never gave a thought to buying a new chainset. A 97 Kilauea would look stupid with a modern chainset in my book, and with the new middle ring my existing one suits me just fine.

And I could have jazzed things up with a coloured middle ring too! But I resisted the temptation.
 
Incidentally, you probably noticed that the Middleburn rings are CNC machined from solid 7075 plate, whereas the Shimano is some kind of feeble pressing that isn't anything like as strong.
 
Anthony":gaye5n4h said:
Not at all, and it isn't all that strange. The guy in my LBS would say the same - he thinks any part older than two years should just be thrown away and replaced with the latest model. When I took a perfectly good pair of the classic 96 Judy SLs for a service, he advised me not to bother, as they were only fit for a skip. So I sent them to Tim Flooks instead and they're still going strong.

With chainrings, it's certainly true that replacing all three rings (assuming you can) costs more than a new chainset, so there is an argument that replacing them one at a time is a false economy. But (a) you might think the Kilauea would look wrong with a modern chainset, and (b) modern chainsets are incompatible with square-taper bbs, so you'd need a new bb as well.

Anyone can put new stuff on unsypathetically - you're so right, the Kilauea would look wrong with almost anything else. The LX/XT c'set looks good......I'm all for keeping it pretty much as I saw it in the 1997 catalogue and apart from the x-Lite angelo stem you'd not spot any of my upgrades.

If the other two rings are almost shot as well, then their argument would be stronger, but in view of Drapoon's kind offer you ought to be able to keep going with a period-correct chainset for a long while to come. Personally I never gave a thought to buying a new chainset. A 97 Kilauea would look stupid with a modern chainset in my book, and with the new middle ring my existing one suits me just fine.

I'm very much obliged for the clarification......thanks to you all, tomorrow will be a brighter day!

Jules
 
shimano deore LX/XT chainset

Drapoon":g2bhitw5 said:
I will send you some pics friday morn dude ( not home til then) they are in good honest condition


cheers

Greetings again - not sure if you ever sent the pics discussed here?
I'd still like to see them please with a view to getting this resolved.

cheers

J
 
eBay_special":aobt0opr said:
Thanks - I've a Litespeed rigid too but apart from the Pace Sub130 bars, the Middleburn RS1's, the 8 sp Ti cassette, XT Rapidfires and Paul Z brakes it doesn't belong here. :wink:

Litespeed's are welcome anywhere....show us your Tit :wink: :lol:
 
neilll":22hmry5i said:
eBay_special":22hmry5i said:
Thanks - I've a Litespeed rigid too but apart from the Pace Sub130 bars, the Middleburn RS1's, the 8 sp Ti cassette, XT Rapidfires and Paul Z brakes it doesn't belong here. :wink:

Litespeed's are welcome anywhere....show us your Tit :wink: :lol:

thankyou - I've been reluctant because I didn't want members complaining that it's 'not retro' and didn't belong. It's totally retro in style and most content....I'll post pics as soon as I can.
 
eBay_special":582xf2am said:
thankyou - I've been reluctant because I didn't want members complaining that it's 'not retro' and didn't belong. It's totally retro in style and most content....I'll post pics as soon as I can.

There might be a few here that would 'bleat' but to be honest this THE friendliest site I have ever been on and full of really friendly/helpful people (as you have already found out with your tech enquiries)
 
neilll":19maryfl said:
eBay_special":19maryfl said:
thankyou - I've been reluctant because I didn't want members complaining that it's 'not retro' and didn't belong. It's totally retro in style and most content....I'll post pics as soon as I can.

There might be a few here that would 'bleat' but to be honest this THE friendliest site I have ever been on and full of really friendly/helpful people (as you have already found out with your tech enquiries)

Tasters in my album now I've worked it out!

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/mai ... emId=38960

Whole bike asap.....

thanks for the encouragement,
cheers,
J
 
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