Sachs
- Thread starter spitoon
- Start date
Agency_Scum
Retrobike Rider
- Feedback
- View
The quartz stuff was XTR standard. That and the mechs; very shiney and " niche. "
Got Sachs front mech on the Klein. No probs at all with it and very nice to look at...!
Original Quarz rear mech is probably the most durable MTB mech ever made.
Reverse pull front mech combo was a nightmare to get your head round. Still have it on my Dave Yates and still haven't get my head round it....
Quarz cantilevers were pretty nice and very underrated. Mine got stolen together with my wife's bike.
PG Extreme twist shifters were the best-kept secret of the mid-90s. Still on my Daye Yates.
Cassettes lasted for ever but had compatibility issues with Shimano as spacing was different.
Hubs lasted forever too.
Brake levers were pig ugly.
Chainset was nice too but I never bought one (Middleburn RS3 was more my cup of tea). The Quarz is probably rarer.....
2nd gen mechs are not so hot IMHO. Too plasticy and a nightmare to change top pulley. When I get round to it, the r mech on aforementioned Dave Yates is coming off and the 1st gen version is going back on.
Reverse pull front mech combo was a nightmare to get your head round. Still have it on my Dave Yates and still haven't get my head round it....
Quarz cantilevers were pretty nice and very underrated. Mine got stolen together with my wife's bike.
PG Extreme twist shifters were the best-kept secret of the mid-90s. Still on my Daye Yates.
Cassettes lasted for ever but had compatibility issues with Shimano as spacing was different.
Hubs lasted forever too.
Brake levers were pig ugly.
Chainset was nice too but I never bought one (Middleburn RS3 was more my cup of tea). The Quarz is probably rarer.....
2nd gen mechs are not so hot IMHO. Too plasticy and a nightmare to change top pulley. When I get round to it, the r mech on aforementioned Dave Yates is coming off and the 1st gen version is going back on.
utahdog2003
Senior Retro Guru
- Feedback
- View
Sachs New Success long cage, previous to Quartz, is the cats tits.
Hi,
My Verlicchi has full Quarz and I have some New Success
The Quarz groupset is made of real materials. Happy with my stuff, but nothing is perfect
The Quarz freehub is known of being not durable. The weakest link.
The brakes are not foolproof. A fool can ruin them by overtightening the canti holder. You can't ruin XTII.
Shifting is very good, but not entirely HyperGlide level.
Compatability is an issue. Quarz shifters, cassette are not interchangeable with the common (read Shimano) stuff. Different spacing.
My Verlicchi has full Quarz and I have some New Success
The Quarz groupset is made of real materials. Happy with my stuff, but nothing is perfect
The Quarz freehub is known of being not durable. The weakest link.
The brakes are not foolproof. A fool can ruin them by overtightening the canti holder. You can't ruin XTII.
Shifting is very good, but not entirely HyperGlide level.
Compatability is an issue. Quarz shifters, cassette are not interchangeable with the common (read Shimano) stuff. Different spacing.
Elev12k":llirjc25 said:
Fair point on freehub. It wasn't more durable than shimano and required a stupid tool to get it off. But the bearings lasted forever in the hub itself.
Re. brakes. Fair point too. But I wasn't a fool with them.... And they were easier to adjust than Shimano. The straddle wire adjustment device they used was superb. Still run one of them on my Alan cross bike. Modulation was great too.
Compatibilty. Basically if you use 7 spd Shimano spacing on all but the first and the last sprockets, which you use 8-speed - then it'll work fine with Shimano cassettes. I ran this bodge for 3 years and it was fine.
And I though the shifting was at least as good as Shimano was at the time.
