ruff...….old dogs appear to be doing lots of new tricks....

2manyoranges

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A number of people seem to be moving from an exclusive focus on retro machinery to building new things - quite a few 'here is my first 27.5 build' and 'I have just put together a 29er'. My own odyssey was around six years ago. Perfectly happy on bikes from my 30 year old stable, I decided to build a light XC bike for my then-10 year-old - and very soon began to understand the evolution which had occurred. I don't want to forget the history and all the accumulated memories of rides and builds - snow and sun and mud and dust. But I like the new developments, and have done some very satisfying (even if eye-wateringly expensive) builds - DH, endure, jump. Most things are improvements, although the shift from 'leave no trace' to digging up the countryside seems retrograde. But a lot of old dogs seem to be developing seriously new tricks.....
 

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Went through a phase a few years ago of building 29ers. They were very capable and in one fs case, got me into trouble with over confidence at mayhem. I have a couple left but moved most on and concentrate on 26 for fun or quality rather than performance.
 

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I'm guilty of this. Love my retro steeds which is kind of why I've built a couple of modern bikes, I care less for them so can ride them as intended and not worry about the damage I'm inflicting on them. Would not contemplate doing the same things on say my team rts.
 

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I've always had old and new bikes on the go, but interests in certain eras and types of bikes/riding does wax and wane over the years.

I really got into road riding about 7 or 8 years ago and my collection of modern and some retro road bikes has expanded accordingly.
To be honest I've rarely even ridden a mountain bike, old or new for a good few years now.
I do still love old mountain bikes though, but see them more as a collection rather than bikes that I'd choose to ride regularly.

It's also more practical to ride newer bikes where I know the parts are usually still available for replacement.
 

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A number of people seem to be moving from an exclusive focus on retro machinery to building new things - quite a few 'here is my first 27.5 build' and 'I have just put together a 29er'. My own odyssey was around six years ago. Perfectly happy on bikes from my 30 year old stable, I decided to build a light XC bike for my then-10 year-old - and very soon began to understand the evolution which had occurred. I don't want to forget the history and all the accumulated memories of rides and builds - snow and sun and mud and dust. But I like the new developments, and have done some very satisfying (even if eye-wateringly expensive) builds - DH, endure, jump. Most things are improvements, although the shift from 'leave no trace' to digging up the countryside seems retrograde. But a lot of old dogs seem to be developing seriously new tricks.....

I dig both. I'm without a retro ride myself at the moment, but her indoors has a Rocky Mountain. I bought it for her on a whim and it's now part of the family as much as the dog. There have been temptations, such as when she encountered a specific 2021 Marin, but with gentle counselling and use of a safe space, she overcame the urge eventually.

The really lovely thing about the older bikes is that, to me at least, they are so much less fussy. Relatively easy to work on, you're without the stress of a plethora of options that goes along with a new bike. I dunno, maybe I'm confused, but I'm damned if I can work out who uses what axle sizes these days and why. Thats just one example. Then theres umpteen different options for purchasing a simple XT shifter. I SPEC, U SPEC, EVERYBODY SPEC B blah blah. Who the hell knows what all that means. It's nuts. Just an XT shifter please, thank you.

Build quality now isn't the same as it was. Get hold of some M900 and you've got a work of art in your hand. Modern XTR. Well, yeah it's OK compared to a lot of the dross, but I can't say it's got the same hold on me as it used to. Also, theres very little boutique stuff now it seems. I've got a Deity cockpit on my new ride, but whilst well made, it's nowhere near as exciting as a Ringle Zooka.

Perhaps I'm just an old romantic. Or just old. Maybe fat and decrepit too.

The saving grace is perhaps modern suspension. Compared to the old elastomer stuff, my fox 38's on the enduro are a galaxy apart but they also are not cheap, so theres that.

One day I will build my dream bike. My modern bike was very nearly a Merlin Newsboy, but shhh, it doesn't know.
 

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The standards....oh the standards.....that’s one of the most frustrating part of building these days...getting the standards sorted in a build. I did a Sentinel last Summer, and got some gorgeous XTR cranks from Germany, new, only to find that the spacing was NOT standard 73mm as stated on the website, but Boost. And too late to return the cranks. Grrrr. Mostly it’s fine...you just have to do heaps of homework to avoid having the wong size bits lying around.
 

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The standards....oh the standards.....that’s one of the most frustrating part of building these days...getting the standards sorted in a build. I did a Sentinel last Summer, and got some gorgeous XTR cranks from Germany, new, only to find that the spacing was NOT standard 73mm as stated on the website, but Boost. And too late to return the cranks. Grrrr. Mostly it’s fine...you just have to do heaps of homework to avoid having the wong size bits lying around.
Works with Retro too though I bought a lovely pair Campagnolo Icarus chainset which is ISO 111mm bought a modern Centaur BB ISO 111mm and the drive side slips on up to the BB shell before tightening..... The CoastRoad is a thing of beauty ridden by the Beast....
 
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